advice for beginners?

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Topic: advice for beginners?

Posted By: jxs1812
Subject: advice for beginners?
Date Posted: May 31, 2009 at 3:09 PM

Hi, I'm only a beginner in car audio, and this will be the first system in my 2009 lancer ES. I am trying to put 2 12'' subs and an amplifier that can "easily" or "relatively easily" power the two subs ^^
[I want my system to have around 700~1000rms(both subs combined)]

I was looking at
1. KENWOOD KAC-9104D (KAC9104D) Class D MONO 1800W AMPLIFIER w/ (2) KFC-W3012 12" SVC 1200W SUBWOOFER (information can be found at (https://.../ke3.html).

there are couple other amps and subs i was looking into, which are

2.CRUNCH PZI1500.1 (PZI15001) MONO-Channel 1500W POWERZONE Series AMPLIFIER (https://.../crupzi15001.html)

3.HIFONICS TXi-7508 (TXi7508)MONO Class-A/B 750W TITAN Series AMPLIFIER (https://.../hiftxi7508.html)

4.SOUNDSTORM F1200M MONO-Block 1200W FORCE Series AMPLIFIER(https://.../sosf1200m.html)

5.KENWOOD KAC-8104D (KAC8104D)MONO Class-D 1000W AMPLIFIER(https://.../kenkac8104d.html)

6.KOLE AUDIO TRAX1-1800D (TRAX11800D)MONO Class-D 1800W TRAX Series AMPLIFIER(https://.../koltrax11800d.html)

7.KOLE AUDIO PH1-2000D (PH12000D)MONO Class-D 2000W PHANATIK Series AMPLIFIER (https://.../kolph12000d.html)

8.NITRO BMW-648 (BMWX-648)MONO-Channel 2500W AMPLIFIER(https://.../nitbmw648.html)

9.POWER ACOUSTIK OVN1-3000D (OVN13000D)MONO Class-D 3000W GOTHIC Series 2009 AMPLIFIER (https://.../pakovn13000d.html)

and

my ideal system would be

1.2xPerformance Teknique ICBM-5712DX
and
2.Nitro BMW-487

What do you guys think? What system do you think will fit my car the best?

p.s. Which amplifier manufacturers should i trust? I hear from places to places that amplifiers nowadays aren't trustworthy.....can u give me some advices on which amps to trust?

Thank you so much for your help guys, and have a great day

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Joon

Replies:

Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: May 31, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Of all the amps you have listed, I would stick with one of the Kenwoods. Kenwood would not be my first choice in amplifiers, but on your list, they would definitely be the one to stick with.

Posted By: djrankin004
Date Posted: May 31, 2009 at 5:23 PM

i work with that amp daily and although it pushes a bit of power for the price i dont think it is very clean as compared to the rockford fosgate and alpine amplifiers that are also on my boards. The subs have a foam surround and it is already starting to show signs of wear after only about 3 months of normal(non abusive) play in the store. Both subs and amp are a decent bang for the buck. What is your price range so maybe we can recommend something else as well

Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: May 31, 2009 at 5:28 PM

We do that exact Kenwood amp and subs as a package deal ...Sounds great...He said 3 months...We sell a few sets a week of those at least every month w/ minimal problems...In fact cant remember last warranty issue...

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Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: May 31, 2009 at 5:32 PM

We have used the 8104D sometimes in its place...Have used the soundstorm a couple times(actually no problem...but stick w/ the Kenwood...)

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Posted By: jxs1812
Date Posted: May 31, 2009 at 8:13 PM

Thank you for your input guys. Well i'm lookin at about 500~600bux for 1amp+2subs+dual sealed box+installation...i found a place that said $170 for installation, so around 400~500bux for 1 amp and 2 subs+a dual box....

I also found about Alpine MRP-M500 (https://www.crutchfield.com/p_500MRPM500/Alpine-MRP-M500.html?tp=115)

do you think this would be a good amp for PIONEER TS-W1207D4 (TSW1207D4)
12" DUAL 4-Ohm PREMIER Series 1200W SUBWOOFER? (https://.../piotsw1207d4.html)

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Joon

Posted By: jxs1812
Date Posted: May 31, 2009 at 8:22 PM

and what kind of specs should i look at when i'm looking for an amp if i were to power 2x500rms watt (4 ohm dual coil subs) without overheating and over running the amp?

as in....would HIFONICS TXi-7508 (TXi7508)
MONO Class-A/B 750W TITAN Series AMPLIFIER

750 Watts RMS x 1 @ 1-Ohms
500 Watts RMS x 1 @ 2-Ohms
325 Watts RMS x 1 @ 4-Ohms
this be a good choice?

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Joon

Posted By: jxs1812
Date Posted: May 31, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Thank you so much guys i feel bad for storming u guys with my questions. Thanks!!

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Joon

Posted By: ianarian
Date Posted: May 31, 2009 at 10:03 PM

GO BIG beginner....1000w mono class D amp and forget about it. 400w of clean rms to compliment, battery, cap, cable and accessories. Any speaker will let you know where your investment went.(In some way) Budgets suck..... take your time...GO BIG!

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Posted By: jxs1812
Date Posted: June 01, 2009 at 6:17 PM

What do you guys think of this set up?

2x Performance Teknique ICBM-5712DX
(https://www......com/item_2181_Performance+Teknique+ICBM-5712DX.html)

and

KENWOOD KAC-8104D (KAC8104D)
MONO Class-D 1000W AMPLIFIER(https://.../kenkac8104d.html)
or
KENWOOD KAC-9104D (KAC9104D)
Class-D MONO 1800W AMPLIFIER (https://.../kenkac9104d.html)
or
Crunch PZi 1000.1
(https://www......com/item_9618_Crunch+PZi+1000.1.html)

What do you guys think?

I know crunch is a bad company, but is the amp also really bad?

Also, do you guys have any suggestions on the amps that can power those 2 500watt rms subs without problems? preferably under 200bux? or around 200bux?

Thanks guys

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Joon

Posted By: thatfloorguy
Date Posted: June 01, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Kicker 750.1 Kicker l715 4 wired to 2 ohm

Posted By: jxs1812
Date Posted: June 01, 2009 at 7:55 PM

i'd like to put 15''s up there but my trunk space is limited...>.< i heard hooking up one brand of subs with another brand of amp is bad is that true? even if specs match?

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Joon

Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: June 01, 2009 at 8:19 PM

If you are a salesman and you have a customer with Kicker Subs, and the customer is talking about purchasing a Rockford amplifier, Well of course they will not work good together. If you are anybody but the salesman, they will be fine.

Posted By: djrankin004
Date Posted: June 02, 2009 at 12:34 AM

some salesmen arent on comission hence they dont need to lie. why not get paid for doing what you like eh?

Posted By: dstang24
Date Posted: June 02, 2009 at 1:59 AM

What if the different brand amp was more expensive??? HAHA

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