1/0 gauge wires, what’s the best?

I have 2 S15L7's, and a Hifonics 2610.

What type of amp kit do you guys prefere? I'm looking at kicker, stinger, streetwire, and tsunami and others?

well i'm not sure where I read ths but, someone said that the audio wires are made specifically for audio/car.

Why boycott monster?

I have to disagree with the last statement.  The lower end power cables are no comparison to the higher end.  I don't think you have to buy monster, but at least their wire sizes are honest.  Next time you go to walmart, open up one of the road gear amp kits.  Or whatever cheap crap they have on the shelf.  Their 8 ga wire is  about half the diameter of a monster 8ga.  And the copper inside, if its even copper, is very thin.  The strands basically fall apart if you try to twist them to fit into a crimp terminal.  If you are using an amp that has the terminals you slide the wire into and a set screw clamps it down, the set screw will shred the cheap wire.  I believe your hifionics is like this. 

A name brand cable is more than likely going to use the awg standards, and a higher grade copper.  I believe the awg is a guide line for wire diameter too, not a law.  If there is a law regulating the wire diameter's, I can give you about a dozen brands to start a class action lawsuit against. 

To answer the original post, if you want a decent wire without paying the price for bling, check out a welding supply store, or an auto parts store.  The wire sold at these places is usually a little cheaper than your car audio brands, but is still heavy stuff.  Most of these are going to be much thicker individual strands which make the wire much harder to bend around corners. 

I have used these cheap cables.  There is def less copper in them.  I wouldn't put them in my car, but I do regularly install them.   Its not what I would sell the customer, but its what they buy.  Swap-o-rama special.  The package says it'll handle a thousand watts, must be good right? 

Wouldn't use it?  Don't really have that option.  I need all the install dollars I can get. If a customer brings me a crappy amp kit, I'll tell them the difference, and usually show them the difference.  But if they don't wanna pay for the difference, we use what they give us. 

Some of the main one's that are def sub par:  DP Audio, Phoenix Gold, Diesel Audio, AudioPipe, etc. 

Some good ones: Kicker, Streetwires, Monster, and most of the AMP stuff. 

I wasn't meaning to put you on the defensive either.  Just stating that there is a lot of stuff out there that is sub par.  I work on cars every day.  I've seen a lot of the good and a lot of the bad.  Some people say wire is wire, I kinda disagree.  Some stuff is def sub par, some 4ga is not 4ga, some is so fraile you can barely use it, and some is closer to the size of 8ga.

While I do agree that a true 4ga from a welding shop is just as good as the 4ga from your major car audio brands (minus the flexiblility), some brands are putting out sub par wiring.  You should be carefull what you buy.  Just because is says 4ga and 1000 watts doesn't mean it is.  It might be sufficient to run those particular brands 1000 watt amp, but that is simply because the ratings on their amps are inflated too.  Their 1000 watt amp puts out 150watts, so their 1000 watt 4ga (8ga) amp kit will work great.

Welding cable sucks to run trough a car, period. If thats what you can afford so be it.  We run stinger and memphis car audio wiring and thats all we run. as far lower end wire being just as conductive as higher end wire I think that is a matter of opinion. Memphis released some testing data on this and it clearly shows that output of an amplifier is decreased by using sub-par power cable.  Doing this on daily basis has brought me to the conclusion the better wire is worth it. I do agree some companines use some pretty drastic advertising practices to promote their products and do tend to mis-lead the customers. I also find it funny and sad at the same time how some will run out and spend 400+ dollars on an amplifier and want to install it with half assed cheap install kits then bitch when the product doesn't perform well or they have headlight dimming.

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If a package SAYS 4AWG, then it HAS to be 4AWG. That's covered by the truth in advertising stuff previously mentioned. Also as previously mentioned, it's a safety issue. If it says "1000 watts", it doesn't have to specifiy a wire gauge at all. This is, I think where much of people's confusion is happening. Read your packages again, kids!

I found on the Scosche page - a reasonable supplier, I think - a 1000 watt kit. This particualr kit specifies 9.5mm wire size. Nowhere does it SAY the wire size included. 9.5mm wire size IS NOT as big as #4, it's actually calculated out to a #3 wire. I BET you though, that the insulation is AS BIG AS what you would see on a #4. Is this false advertising? No. Is it misleading? Marginally, IMO.

I'll go to Wally World tomorrow, and check a kit out.

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