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breaking in sub a different way

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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=117573
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Topic: breaking in sub a different way

Posted By: daniel gt1
Subject: breaking in sub a different way
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 3:41 PM

i read the topic based on breaking in a car and home subwoofer a while now. Do all subwoofers apply to the 12volt's way of breaking the woofer?..I know Digital Designs subs, are broken in a different way..I need to know what you experts have to say bout this..th!!



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Not sure what you are asking... IMO the best way to "break in" a subwoofer is simply to use it normally.

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Posted By: daniel gt1
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 3:54 PM
DYohn] wrote:

Not sure what you are asking... IMO the best way to "break in" a subwoofer is simply to use it normally.



what i meant was this : Digital Designs Subwoofers..have a different way of breaking their subwoofers which is true..Now my question is : "DO ALL SUBWOOFERS INCLUDING DD SUBS, MUST BE BROKEN IN AS YOU GUYS RECOMMEND?"

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Posted By: skateit_12
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Breaking in subwoofer is a myth...there made to bang out of the box...show me a manual that tells you to "break in" a subwoofer before normal use




Posted By: audiocableguy
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Well Skateit ...

... allow at least several weeks of playing time to break in DD Woofers, full break in may take many months. DO NOT play subwoofers at max amplifier power in the first couple of days, give the suspensions a chance to loosen up. As the suspension breaks in, the subs will play lower and louder.





Posted By: daniel gt1
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 4:23 PM
audiocableguy wrote:

Well Skateit ...

... allow at least several weeks of playing time to break in DD Woofers, full break in may take many months. DO NOT play subwoofers at max amplifier power in the first couple of days, give the suspensions a chance to loosen up. As the suspension breaks in, the subs will play lower and louder.




THAT'S THE EXACT SENTENCE USED ON THE DD SUBWOOFER PAGE. BUT THE ONLY MANUEL I KNOW IS "THE12VOLT.COM"...BECAUSE TO MY KNOWLEDGE, EVERYTHING HERE MAKES ENOUGH SENCE TO A NEW MEMBER OF THIS RELIABLE SITE




Posted By: daniel gt1
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 4:40 PM
skateit_12 wrote:

Breaking in subwoofer is a myth...there made to bang out of the box...show me a manual that tells you to "break in" a subwoofer before normal use


so if you bought a "brand new" epicenter (white or grey)..and you installed it right away..it'l work well....you're defeating the purpose of subs by saying something like that..subs must be broken in for optimum output in its recommended enclousure...the same goes for the epicenter..it must be tuned for maximum performance..am sure u would understand




Posted By: scistar17
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Uh I can quote this from AudioQue's site if you need a manual reference.

"We recommend to allow at least several weeks of playing time to break in AQ Woofers, full break in may take many months.
DO NOT play subwoofers at max amplifier power in the first couple of days, give the suspensions a chance to loosen up. As the suspension breaks in, the subs will play lower and louder."

Is that enough of a myth if the builders of a hand built sub tell you to do it?




Posted By: scistar17
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 8:48 PM
lol looks like several sub brands use that exact quote.




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 8:50 PM
So if you have a 100 watt amplifier, you can't play it wide open for one week or two weeks?




Posted By: whiterob
Date Posted: November 08, 2009 at 9:56 PM
scistar17 wrote:

lol looks like several sub brands use that exact quote.


DD manufacturers AudioQue subs and the subs are designed by the DD designer. So there is a connection between the companies which is why they would use the same quote.


There is such a thing as break in but not breaking in a sub will not damage the sub. The "break in" will refer to the change in the T/S parameters of the sub that occur as the suspension of the sub loosens.

So playing a sub at full volume is not bad as long as you don't exceed the subs thermal or mechanical limits. Most companies will recommend you don't play them at full volume out of the box. There may be various reasons but one is that they don't want people cranking up the volume as soon as they install their subs. They want people to adjust their system correctly so they won't have as much of a chance to blow their sub. If you were to take it easy on the sub at first you may notice some adjustments that you need to make with your system.




Posted By: j.reed
Date Posted: November 09, 2009 at 12:00 AM
whiterob wrote:

scistar17 wrote:

lol looks like several sub brands use that exact quote.


DD manufacturers AudioQue subs and the subs are designed by the DD designer. So there is a connection between the companies which is why they would use the same quote.


There is such a thing as break in but not breaking in a sub will not damage the sub. The "break in" will refer to the change in the T/S parameters of the sub that occur as the suspension of the sub loosens.

So playing a sub at full volume is not bad as long as you don't exceed the subs thermal or mechanical limits. Most companies will recommend you don't play them at full volume out of the box. There may be various reasons but one is that they don't want people cranking up the volume as soon as they install their subs. They want people to adjust their system correctly so they won't have as much of a chance to blow their sub. If you were to take it easy on the sub at first you may notice some adjustments that you need to make with your system.


Well put.

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: November 09, 2009 at 1:32 PM
That answer being said so succinctly stated by whiterob, if the parameters are correct for the driver from the get-go, and the enclosure is designed correctly FOR that woofer, then WFO from the day you buy it, can only hasten this mythical "break-in" process. The subwoofer system will only "come into it's own", until it's perfect...

To do it REALLY correctly, I'd suggest 100 watts or so at the driver's specified Fs, without any enclosure, drive it like this for about 7 days, measure EXACTLY for THAT "broken-in" driver's parameters, and then build your enclosure for those parameters...

My money says that there isn't enough change either way to justify ANY expense of time like that. I've personally never seen it... Not even once.

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 09, 2009 at 4:19 PM

DYohn] wrote:

MO the best way to "break in" a subwoofer is simply to use it normally.

Like I said...



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