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alpine 9887 blown ouput

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Printed Date: May 09, 2024 at 6:57 PM


Topic: alpine 9887 blown ouput

Posted By: licto
Subject: alpine 9887 blown ouput
Date Posted: May 14, 2010 at 10:14 PM

Hey all.....  was just getting ready to hook up the last part of my active system.  Was running the REAR / HIGH output of the HU to a MTX 282 in 3 way or 2.2 Mode.  Come to find out.....  NOTHING.......  well almost nothing..........  If I turn the HU up almost all the way  (Say, 28 out of 30)......  I can hear a real faint signal coming from the tweets.

I then moved the whole thing from the 282 back to channels 3 and 4 of the PDX 4100 after UN Bridging it........  Still no output for the tweets,,,,  Just that faint signal.

I have done just about all the diags that I can......

1. Switched RCA to make sure the tweets are wired up correctly......  Yep

2. Tested the full length JL Audio Quad RCA to make sure it didn’t get nipped during setup......  both channels work fine when hooked up to HU FRONT / MIDRANGE output.

3. Switched the HU back to 4 way or 4.2 mode.......  Still no output from the HIGH / REAR Channel.....  Moved the RCA for the rear to the front / mid......  and the tweeters got a small dose of full range.......  Power was kept REALLY LOW.....

SO.....  Short of some F'ed up setting in the HU that shuts off.....  puts out a really low output .......etc.

I THINK THE OUTPUT IS BLOWN.......  This leads me down a road for HELP.

Talked with J. Reed via Ventrillo, and he said that  I AM an IDIOT may be able to help out with some thoughts on.......

1. How to fix the output myself...

2. What to look for........

3. Having Idiot fix it........

4. Having Anyone you all in the forums know fix it.........

Really a bummer at this stage of the game in going active to find out that the channel doesn’t work.  Any thoughts are appreciated.

PS.....  I purchased this HU 1/19/08......

Any further info needed....  I am here to help getting help.

Licto......




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Posted By: licto
Date Posted: May 14, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Thanks to whoever fixed my post....  you can delete this also if you would like.





Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: May 15, 2010 at 4:26 AM
Did you get your problem figured out?  Does that unit have the Ai-net switch on the bottom cover?  If so, make sure it is in the NORM position.




Posted By: licto
Date Posted: May 15, 2010 at 6:34 PM

I went out this AM to check and make sure the unit is in fact at the NORMAL position........

NO change in the HIGH / REAR output.......  bummer.





Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: May 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM
What is the full model number?  I need to look at the manual.




Posted By: licto
Date Posted: May 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: May 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM

The output chip on that radio is defeatable via the menu.  Have you checked that yet?





Posted By: licto
Date Posted: May 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM
If you are talking about the POWER IC chip for the onboard Amplifier........  it has been off for some time.  I have only ever used the Pre outs off of this deck.  The Pre out mids / front work fine......  it is the Pre out or low level out for the Rear / High that I am having a problem with.  Very Very low level signal is coming out,,,  I have to turn the deck up to almost max to hear a small squeak of a signal from the tweeters......




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: May 16, 2010 at 4:28 PM
What are the chances that a power wire touched the center pin of the RCA cable at the amplifier?  I still do not know how it happens, but I have seen the muting transistors short and cause the same exact problem you are having.  I have no idea where they are located on that deck, but they will be very near the RCA jacks.  They may be on the top or the bottom of the circuit board.  Follow the path that connects to the center connection of one of the jacks in question, It may go through a capacitor but it should go to a small surface mount device with 3 solder connections.  If you find that device use a meter and check to see if any leg shows near a dead short to any other leg of the device.




Posted By: licto
Date Posted: May 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Thank god the problem is solved.........  Turns out that when you switch the unit from 4.2 to 2.2, or 4 way to 3 way........  the unit likes to have the RESET button pressed.  Gets its mind refreshed and ready to do the new MODE.

Its back up and running and doing what it should with respect to managing frequencies via the ACTIVE crossover and the Rear / MID channel is putting out the sound it should.  Thanks for all the help Idiot......

Licto





Posted By: licto
Date Posted: May 19, 2010 at 3:23 PM

After giving this some thought........  I now know why my system did what it did.

At some point after taking the rear speakers out and only having the fronts.......  I FADED the unit to the front only.  Even though it was still driving all four channels on the PDX 4100.  I eventually took out all the speakers to start the path to 3 way mode, or fronts only.

I was drving around with no speakers at all....  They I stopped by the stereo shop and had them switch it to 3 way mode.  The Alpine CDA-9887 considers Front to be MID and REAR to be HIGH.......... 

So when the unit gets switched, FADING is disabled in the menu.  There was no signal from that set of RCA's.  Even when I switched it back to 4 Way mode, I didnt remember to check the FADE.

By pressing the RESET HOLE/BUTTON found behind the faceplace bottom left corner, the unit was returned to factory of 50/50 split on both FADE and LEFT RIGHT......

I now have a signal and the tweets are a chirpin once again.

Licto






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