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Topic: amplifier in protection mode?

Posted By: asquarecan
Subject: amplifier in protection mode?
Date Posted: July 11, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Hey guys,

So I am confused as all hell!

I just bought a new class D pioneer amp and installed it in my truck. I had a previous amp in it (a MTX 3002) anyways I had been running the mtx for about 3 months with no issues, but I am upgrading my sub so I needed a bigger amp.

I unhooked the battery from the car prior to uninstall and install of the new amp.

Install everything and hook the sub up and nothing... amp is going into protection mode. Cant figure out for the life of my what is wrong. The amp is sitting on carpet so it is not touching any metal. I get so frustrated with it after trouble shooting everything I can think to do.

I unhook the battery again re-install the amp and sub combo I was running before I had any issues and now before I even plug my rca or speaker wires in my MTX is in protection mode wth!?!?!? All good wire back to the battery and no fuses are blown.

What the hell is going on here! I have never had this issue before and this is driving me crazy!

Thanks
Keith



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Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: July 11, 2010 at 4:59 PM
I understand your previous combination worked but have you tried a different ground?

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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 11, 2010 at 8:21 PM
Have you used a volt meter to verify the amp is getting power and ground?  If you have an AGU type fuse anywhere in the power path to the amp, replace the fuse, even if it does not look blown.




Posted By: asquarecan
Date Posted: July 11, 2010 at 9:02 PM
What is an AGU fuse? I have a 100 amp in line fuse about 6 inches behind the battery and then obviously the amp in fused.

I will re-check my ground.

I took it off and re-sanded all around it and re-grounded it. I tried a 3rd amp and woofer combo and now I am getting occasional power to the woofer but not steady at all. Unlike the 2nd amp the protection does not come on.

I am done screwing with it this weekend I will mess with it after work one of these nights.

As for my first 2 amps with the protection light coming on is the amp ruined or once my problem is solved will they go back to working?

Thanks
Keith





Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 11, 2010 at 10:18 PM
Once you get the problem taken care of, your other amps should be fine.  Do you have a volt meter?




Posted By: asquarecan
Date Posted: July 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM
My dad does,

I will swing by his house on the way home from work tomorrow.

What do I need to test as I am new to this.

Thanks
Keith




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 12, 2010 at 5:51 AM

Meter set to DC volts, black lead on the ground terminal of the amp, then red terminal on the power connection of the amp.  Notice that reading.  Move the red lead to the remoter terminal of the amp and notice that reading.

The radio must be turned on for both of these tests.





Posted By: asquarecan
Date Posted: July 12, 2010 at 8:04 AM
Thank you,

I will check it out when I get home today and let you know.

Keith




Posted By: asquarecan
Date Posted: July 12, 2010 at 8:28 PM
OK so I have 13 volts to the power but only 6.5 to the remote. Is this how it is suppose to or should the remote have 13~ volts to it as well? Also if this is bad how would I go about fixing it?

Thanks
Keith




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 12, 2010 at 8:46 PM
The remote wire should be much nearer 12 volts.  I have no idea where you are getting power for the remote wire.  Do you have an aftermarket radio?  If not, where is the other end of the remote wire connected.




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 12, 2010 at 9:03 PM
If you want to put your mind at ease and just see if the amp is working, remove the remote wire from the amp and insulate the wire so it will not touch anything.  Now take a short piece of wire and attach it to the remote terminal of the amp, then touch and hold it to the power terminal of the amp, this should make the amp turn on and play. 




Posted By: asquarecan
Date Posted: July 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM
I have an after market alpine x200 and I have all the wires crimped and spliced together I will check all my splices and make sure nothing is wrong at that end.

I ordered a new fuse it should be here tomorrow or the next day, will the remote cause the amp not to play and output music?

Thanks
Keith





Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 12, 2010 at 9:52 PM

If you followed my instructions when you tested power and remote, there is no problem with your fuse.  Low voltage on the remote wire will keep the amp from turning on. 





Posted By: asquarecan
Date Posted: July 12, 2010 at 9:55 PM
Well I will have 2 spares now lol.

I guess this is where I am confused (sorry) Is there a difference between the amp being on and being on to play music? Because The lights are on the amp and it shows power being on to the amp. I will double check the remote wire tomorrow. I will see how many volts are on the radio side of the splice to see what I should have at the amp. Assuming my remote is closer to 12 volts if not 12 volts is there anything else that could be causing the issues I am having?

Thanks
Keith




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 12, 2010 at 10:10 PM
A couple posts ago I suggested a way you could find out if your amp is OK. 




Posted By: asquarecan
Date Posted: July 13, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Oops, I completely missed that post! I saw the last post on page 1 and replied to that never saw that post. I will try what you said to see if it is the remote causing the issue.

Thanks




Posted By: asquarecan
Date Posted: July 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM
I AM STUPID!!!!!!

Ok so I figured out my issue and had to slap myself, anyways have 12 volts to the remote now and everything is working great!

Thanks a ton for the help!
Keith




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 13, 2010 at 10:18 PM
I am glad you got it figured out.





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