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alpine mrp m1000 overheating

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Topic: alpine mrp m1000 overheating

Posted By: rboutin2
Subject: alpine mrp m1000 overheating
Date Posted: September 13, 2010 at 6:12 PM

I recently installed 2 12" 2010 model type r dual 2 ohm subs, in a custom ported downfired box, and an alpine mrp m100 amp. The subs are wired at a 2 ohm load at the amp. I have 4 guage power and ground wire running to it. It will play fine for about an hour, being played a little hard, but withing reason, then, ponce it gets really hot, the bass output will cut in half, and if i keep playing it, it will cut in and out, and the amp will go into protect mode. I had this same amp on 2 12" treos at 2 ohms, and it never once got hot, barely even got warm. Are the type r's demanding too much power out of the amp or what? The subs handle 650 rms each. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: September 13, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Have you used an ohm meter to verify that they wired at 2 ohms?




Posted By: rboutin2
Date Posted: September 13, 2010 at 8:19 PM
Yup. They are registering 2.5 ohms.

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Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: September 19, 2010 at 4:56 AM
what is your gain set at

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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"




Posted By: rboutin2
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 12:48 AM

right at the "norm" mark on the dial. bass boost is about 1/4th of the way up. I dont understand why it is happening tho cuz i had two of the type r's (model before newest) and an mrd m1005 alpine amp. That amp never even got warm. arealpine's new amps really not as good as their previous models? Also, how would a hifonics amp run with my r's?



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Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 1:11 AM
I have the same subs as you however. their Are Two different models 1222d 1242d .maybe its not wired correctly. You could run them mono on the high fonics amp. But I put my money on the wiring


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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"




Posted By: rboutin2
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 7:13 AM
they are wired correctly. I have the 1222d. I have two of them. they are wired to 2 ohms. They actually read 2.5 ohms on a DMM.

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Posted By: skinnman33
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 11:21 AM
Are both subs wired at 2ohms? If they are and your running them both parallel then the amp is running in 1 ohm. Just a thought not much was specified on your setup. A guy had the same problem and he was running it at 1 ohm on a 2 ohm stable amp. Hope this helps.
I repair amps for a living, cheapest repairs in the USA and honest. so if you know of anyone that needs repairs done, spread the word please.

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skinnman




Posted By: skinnman33
Date Posted: September 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Please forgive me I seen you said in your first post that it is 2 ohms at the amp. One of your subs may be going bad maybe. Each voice coile is rated at 250 watts RMS @ 2 ohm giving you 500 watts RMS a sub when both coils are wired in parallel. So yours must be wired in series to bring the subs up to 4 ohms then wired parallel at the amp. Try testing each sub by itself but wire it to 2 ohms and see if the amp gets hot. I have done this myself and found a customers sub was going bad. I don't think it's anything with the amp or it would go into protect but these amps cut half the power when they get to hot so it's hard to tell. Thats why I want you to try each sub by itself.

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skinnman




Posted By: rboutin2
Date Posted: September 21, 2010 at 8:36 AM
so hook only one sub up to the amp, running at 2 ohms,  and see if the amp still gets hot? Whats the likelyhood of having a bad sub? The two subs are brand new from a authorized dealer. The amp i got used, the guy said he only had it for a year.

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Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: September 21, 2010 at 9:31 AM
true it can be the sub. so take a old common house plug and wire and wire it to the speakers pos/neg post and plug it in the wall lol just playing. but in all seriousness if the speaker is blown the cone will be loose and you will hear a scratching noise out of it. with the speaker off gently push the centerof the cone done and if its stiff ur sub is good if its loose you got a burnt coil . seeing on how your sub is dvc one of the coils could be bad and that could be the reason why your amps going into protection mode ... post your results

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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: September 21, 2010 at 1:22 PM

For safety reasons, DO NOT PLUG YOUR SPEAKER INTO A WALL OUTLET





Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: September 21, 2010 at 4:32 PM
it was a joke i dont think hes gonna plug his sub to a wall outlet

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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"




Posted By: rboutin2
Date Posted: September 22, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Okay, so my new r's are making a clacking noise of sorts when a certain frequency of bass hits, midrange, like 30-40 hz. My old subs, my 2 treos did the same thing. could this be my amp being bad? Like, the amp gets uber hot, so hot you cant put ur hand on it, just under normal conditions. If it is my amp, I am willing to buy another one. What would yall recommend for around $250, $300 at the absolute most? I am thinking that there cant be anything wrong with the subs, cuz for 1, theyre brand new, and 2, they are being underpowered 100 watts each, and the amps not clipping. So, idk what else it could be other than the amp is no good. Btw, i was looking at a hifonics hfi2000d. This amp any good?



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