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2 different subs, same output?

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Topic: 2 different subs, same output?

Posted By: smwilli
Subject: 2 different subs, same output?
Date Posted: October 15, 2010 at 7:04 PM

I have 2 different subs I'd like to use, both oldschool: Soundstream spl160 (15") and a boston acoustics 10.4lf (10").  I'm using win isd to design a box to decide which one to use.  My issue is that the 10.4lf in a 1.5 CuF vented box has close to the same response curve and -3db point as the spl160 in a 3.7 CuF vented box. 

Am I missing something by going with the boston as opposed to the spl160?  Space is somewhat at a premium, otherwise I'd go with the spl in a 4.7CuF box with a -3db @ 30hz).

Any insight or opinion on this is appreciated!




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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: October 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM
some subs just perform better in a bigger or smaller box. its the whole reason why box calculators exist in the first place. if every sub performed the same in similar sized enclosures it would just take all the fun out of it.

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Posted By: smwilli
Date Posted: October 15, 2010 at 7:47 PM
I just didn't know if the 15 would hit "harder" or if the 10 would sound the same, but not be able to feel it.




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: October 15, 2010 at 8:46 PM

You say that the 4.7 cu ft box with the Soundstream 15 yields a F3 at 30 Hz.  At 3.7 cu ft, the model is similar to the 10" Boston (in the much smaller box).  Question:  what is the F3 there?

Add some info to this thread and some of us can look at it with you.  T/S param.



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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: smwilli
Date Posted: October 16, 2010 at 7:41 AM
Soundstream spl160 DVC
 
Frequency Response 25-500
Sensitivity(2.83v/1m) 96db
Impedance(nominal Z, ohms) 2
Rated Program Power(watts) 800
Fs (Hz) 28
Qts .33
Qms 7.82
Qes .35
Vas (ft3) 7.24
Vas (liter) 205
Vas (m3) .205
Cms (um/N) 183
DCR (Ohms) 2.01
Levc (mH)@1Khz .67
BL (Tesla m) 13.3
Sd(in2) 131.0
Sd(m2) .0845
Sd(cm2) 845
X max; one way (linear mm) 10.0
X max; one way (peak mm) 22
Vd (linear cm3) 845
Vd (peak cm3) 1859
Vd (linear m3) .000845
Vd (peak cm3) .001859
Mms (grams) 173
Magnet Assembly (oz) 345
Magnet Weight (oz) 157
Vf (volume of frame, in3) 385
Coil Length (mm) 28.6

Boston Acoustics 10.4LF
Peak Input Power 500 watts
Continuous Input Power 250 watts
Sensitivity (1 watt .5m) 98dB
Nominal Impedance 4 Ohms
Fs 33 Hz
Vas 2.34 cubic feet
Qts 0.36
Qes 0.42
Qms 2.53
Cms 380.9
Sd 56 square inches
Voice Coil Diameter 2 in.
Re 4.1 ohms
Le 0.65 mH
X-max (one way) 7.5mm





Posted By: smwilli
Date Posted: October 21, 2010 at 10:30 AM
The f3 on both is right around 35hz





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