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Topic: optima or kinetik?

Posted By: knotdrummer88
Subject: optima or kinetik?
Date Posted: October 20, 2010 at 2:56 PM

im  replacing the stock battery in a 92 grand marquis, should i go with optima or kinetik?



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Posted By: mrm1776
Date Posted: October 20, 2010 at 4:15 PM
I like my Optima a lot, but a lot of people on here are Kinetik fans. You might also look into Odyssey batteries.

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MECP Basic Installation Tech
Certification ID: CEA195600
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Polk Audio DXi 6500 - front
Rockford Fosgate Power T1693 - rear
Alpine MRP-F300
Alpine MRP-M500
Alpine SWR-1242D




Posted By: knotdrummer88
Date Posted: October 20, 2010 at 5:20 PM
thank you for your input, so would you say mechanically(so to speak) that there are there any big differences between the two? or pros or cons to either of them? thank you very much




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: October 20, 2010 at 5:44 PM
My usual question is why? But that is over here where they are three times the price of normal car batteries ($300-$350) and they rarely last as long as flooded batteries under typical usage.
(It's different for rarely started collectors cars, or as a second audio battery etc, but for cranking and winching etc - AGM usually isn't worth it.)

I too once thought Odyssey or Optima.
Many stateside claimed Kinetic are better than Optima.
I know of many local Optima failures a few years ago, and Optima were unable to provide any data to counter "bad reliability" claims.
Recently I was told that Deka were better than Optima & Odyssey and that Odyssey was not the saviour I thought it to be.




Posted By: godd dan it
Date Posted: October 21, 2010 at 2:16 AM
I like Optima.

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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: October 21, 2010 at 9:59 AM
i've used both and i really cant complain. i used a red top optima and got about 4 years out of it running off of the stock alternator. but, from what i hear optima isn't as good as it was when i bought mine and lately i have seen a few people who were kind of disappointed with them, but i cant tell you what the circumstances were that made them not like optima. they could have been trying to run a huge system off of one optima battery which is not recommended. if you want the battery for just an everyday car with a small system like 1000-1500 watts total, an optima should be fine. and probably will be your cheapest option too.

right now i have a stinger battery that's pretty nice and runs my system like a beast. i haven't used kinetiks in any regular cars situations, its always been on a ridiculous system with more that 3 amps to run but they do the job very well too. whats good about kinetic and stinger is they dont just have a one size fits all battery, they make all kinds of different sizes so you can get the one that fits your car or system requirements.

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Posted By: knotdrummer88
Date Posted: October 21, 2010 at 10:26 AM
thanks a lot guys! and i didnt mention earlier i going for a yellow top, would i run into any problems using that as my starter, and my only battery for my system? or should i go with the red top? and also in the futer i plan on adding more in the back




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: October 21, 2010 at 10:33 AM
if it's going to be your only battery you need a red top. yellow tops are secondary batteries.

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Posted By: mrm1776
Date Posted: October 21, 2010 at 10:54 AM
Agreed. Everyone tries to throw a yellow top under their hood. Red tops are cranking batteries. Yellow-tops are deep-cycle batteries. People down here seem to be okay with yellow-tops as their only batteries, but that's because we don't have that cold of winters. Red-tops are best for cold cranks.

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MECP Basic Installation Tech
Certification ID: CEA195600
Pioneer AVIC-X920BT
Polk Audio DXi 6500 - front
Rockford Fosgate Power T1693 - rear
Alpine MRP-F300
Alpine MRP-M500
Alpine SWR-1242D




Posted By: randy8876
Date Posted: October 21, 2010 at 3:11 PM
I've got a red top that I've used for 14 years. I sent a letter of appreciation to Optima regarding how happy I was with the performance and they called me to offer a free exchange for a new battery, so I doubt I would ever use anyone other than Optima.




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: October 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM
And there you may have one consideration - older versus later Optimas. They changed construction (materials) after ownership changes etc. Maybe they have now come good.

And good to see others claim red is for cranking and yellow for deep cycle, I have so many people telling me that AGMs or Optimas do BOTH. (It's as if they do not realise AGMs are good cranking batteries - even if it is not good for the battery!)


I still question WHY an AGM for the main cranking battery. (There are reasons, but as long as the compromises are appreciated.)

FYI - I get 8 years with abuse from my normal cheap flooded batteries. Some people expect the same or better from AGMs (based on price and misinfo LOL!).




Posted By: knotdrummer88
Date Posted: October 23, 2010 at 1:56 PM
thanks guys! and im just tryin my amplifers more juice, im runnin just over 1000 watts, in near future upgrading to around 2000 though. and sounds like for now with just the stock battery location i should go with the red top. if i have a red top there, then when i add more i would be cool adding in some yellow tops in the back?




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: October 23, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Yep.
Hence why most keep their standard cranking battery and add AGMs near the amps.

Not however that bigger batteries do not make up for undersized alternators. (They simply mean a longer time before flattening....)




Posted By: knotdrummer88
Date Posted: October 24, 2010 at 2:06 AM
awsome thanks man!




Posted By: dragon51
Date Posted: October 25, 2010 at 9:44 PM
I don't know much about the others brands, but I use a Red Top in my Jeep, and I do beat my battery harder then most. It's been used several times on my Warn 8000lb Winch,it pulls a ton of amps and my Red Top just keeps on going!




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: October 28, 2010 at 5:21 PM

randy8876 wrote:

I've got a red top that I've used for 14 years. I sent a letter of appreciation to Optima regarding how happy I was with the performance and they called me to offer a free exchange for a new battery, so I doubt I would ever use anyone other than Optima.

Wow, that's what you call service. Did it remain in the same vehicle for that period or was it transferred?






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