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10" sub for sound quality?

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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Printed Date: July 07, 2025 at 11:24 AM


Topic: 10" sub for sound quality?

Posted By: diablo2184
Subject: 10" sub for sound quality?
Date Posted: April 03, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Hey all, I have searched a little and can only find threads from 2004 and 2005 regarding subwoofers more for sound quality. I am looking for a 10" sub that sounds good. I dont want to get too crazy with high pricing, it all depends. I have gotten out of the stage of blowing windows off the car next to you. I want something that sounds great in my car and may be a little loud. Any suggestions? JL, MB, Mmats?

thanks!



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Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 03, 2011 at 10:56 PM
It would be for a 2010 Toyota Corolla




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 04, 2011 at 1:34 PM
TCSounds Epic 10". Find them here...

Awesome sub. Simply "Epic"... LOL I know, sarcasm. But really. VERY nice sub, and they won't break the bank.




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 04, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Never heard of them.....?




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 04, 2011 at 3:34 PM
diablo2184 wrote:

Never heard of them.....?

1: Is that a comment or a question, because, yes, I have heard of them.
2: ...and?

Just because you've never heard of them, does that make them bad? I assure you, in this price range there is VERY precious little that will even come close to the performance capability of these woofers, in both output AND sound quality.

Thilo Stompler has been OEMing drivers for many manufacturers for years. MOST notably, ever hear of the Eclipse Ti series of woofers? Right out of the TCSounds factory in San Diego, California... First, I can assure you they are EXCELLENT drivers, and secondly I would never recommend ANYTHING that I wouldn't use in a system of my own.

While they are not an SPL woofer in the strictest sense of the description, they ARE in every sense of the word, an audiophile woofer, as you asked for.




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 04, 2011 at 7:54 PM
no i am not saying that since i have not heard of them, then they are bad.

my comment was that i havent heard of them and i would like more input and info on them. my mistake for not saying so instead i wrote a question mark. i have not heard of that company so i do not know where to buy that brand nor what prices are good for them. yes i want SQ over loudness, like i stated in my original post. thanks, i will try and research some more.

anyone else???




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 04, 2011 at 10:54 PM
and what amp to support a SQ setup?




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 10:02 AM
Order them online. Parts-express.com. The link I offered in my original post takes you right to the page for the product.

As far as the amplifier... How much did you want to spend? I can offer up anything from 50 bucks for a "3000 watts peak" Boss POS with a 10A fuse in the end of it, all the way to MANY more hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars for Zapco or similar, but you'll get real power, not inflated hype...

Right down the middle of that range, and speaking from experience, an Alpine PDX1.1000 will drive a pair of those with AMAZING efficiency, and sound spectacular doing it. Another nice feature with this option is the size. Tiny amp, tiny boxes, excellent results.

If only needing one woofer, then go with the PDX1.600. Still perfect. If you go with a fully amplified system, the PDX5 will run the woofer and the full system all from one chassis.




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 11:01 AM

i know you gotta pay to play, but its also for a Corolla.  So something of good quality, but dont need 3000 watts lol. at least i dont think i do.  I want a good, high quality 10" for the car.  I want to get all tones of the bass, not just the loudness.  I would like to keep as much space as I can in the trunk, and I know the JL W7 series needs a lot of air space.  what about that TC?  Same goes for that?

I will eventually upgrade the mids and highs inside, or if i can find a good price then i would do it all at once.  does it make a difference running one amp for everything versus two amps?





Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Small, and good sounding...

The TC 10 will work in a small .5 cube sealed enclosure, and the PDX1.600 will drive it all day long, with PLENTY of output.

IMO... a perfect combination for you.

Actually, your thread has made me think I might be re-engineering my trunk...




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 12:52 PM
haha nice




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 12:55 PM
i may build a bigger box than that...which would n=make it sound better right?




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 1:07 PM

and i went to your link and saw it, but when i do it manually, it doesnt come up under Car Subwoofers.  is the TC a car sub that you linked to?

also, whats up with the crappy amps on that site?





Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 4:46 PM
There is no such thing as a "car sub". ANY woofer can be used ANYWHERE as long as you make certain your load is correctly matched to the outputs of your amplifier.

On the left side, search under manufacturers, (LONG drop-down menu) and select TCSounds.

Yep. The amps suck. They're originally a DIY speaker builder's supply, and they've branched out. Don't bother with the amps avaialable there... Like you said, they're crap. (If you want one of the most KICK-*** 12V USB sound-card/pre-amps ever, though, check out "Topping" there... Also in the mfr's list.)

As far as building a larger enclosure? Sure, you can do that... You'll gain extension, but lose output. Nothing you can do about it. Me? I'd put those dudes in about 1.0 to 1.2 cubes, heavily braced, and unstuffed. Should get you somewhere in the 27 to 28Hz range for your F3. Your mechanical power handling will be significantly lower than your electrical power handling, however. What that means is: "You'll beat 'em to death on the stops, before you ever blow it with too much power".




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 5:01 PM
I'm sorry, what's extension vs output? Lol
Would the larger enclosure benefit sound quality? To get all ranges of bass? If that makes any sense....

Thanks for all the info




Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 6:15 PM
Extension="Goes Deeper"
Output="How loud it'll get"

Bigger box goes deeper, but will not play as loud, due to the loss of mechanical power handling.




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 6:42 PM

and what do you mean by "unstuffed"?  lol :)

would that enclosure you would do be ported or sealed?





Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 06, 2011 at 6:59 PM

and does it make a difference between marine and non-marine?

why the PDX1.600 over the MRP-M500 and others?





Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 07, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Unstuffed... Just what it sounds like - no stuffing.

Sealed.

NEVER use plywood. Good plywood, truly suitable for speaker cabinetry, is VERY expensive. MDF is a far better choice.

Size, primarily. That, and I love the PDX amps.




Posted By: diablo2184
Date Posted: April 07, 2011 at 4:24 PM
ok thanks for the responses. anything else that you would compare to the Epic? any other brands?





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