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switched 12v distribution

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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=126948
Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 9:11 PM


Topic: switched 12v distribution

Posted By: zerovandez
Subject: switched 12v distribution
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 4:58 PM

I'm wanting to put together some kind of Ignition/Accessory 12v distro block. Is it as easy as finding an ignition/accessory wire and running to lets a a fused distro block?



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Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 5:15 PM
Provided that ign/acc source powers a relay (etc, through diodes if they are joined), then yes....




Posted By: zerovandez
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 6:41 PM
Any tips or diagrams on how to acomplish this? How many relays?




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: April 13, 2011 at 10:25 PM
Just one relay.

Try looking at Relays above or under the many diagrams...

Or search.

Otherwise you'll have to wait for me....




Posted By: zerovandez
Date Posted: April 14, 2011 at 7:51 AM

I'll look at the relay diagrams above. I've worked with them before when I added accessories to my alarm system just never really understood them. I've searched regarding this topic but came up short. Maybe I'm using the wrong key words? I don't post until I've exhausted my searching abilities.

It would be very nice if you can assist me with wiring the relay and also provide a few links for good fused distro boxes. Thanks!





Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: April 18, 2011 at 1:46 AM
The wait was shorted than expected...

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Posted By: zerovandez
Date Posted: April 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM
Hey thanks a million! Just a few questions if you don't mind. For pole 30, would I need to install an inline fuse like a do a car stereo amplifier? What size fuse? For 87; I should be able to connect that to a fuse box that has multiple connections for accessories right?




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: April 19, 2011 at 11:49 AM
Yes....

You size the cable (30 & 87) to handle the maximum load current.

The #30 fuse is as near the battery +12V as possible/practicable and is sized to protect the wire or relay - whichever has the lowest current rating eg, if batt to #30 50A, relay is 30A, #87 to whatever is 40A, then fuse = 30A or less. (It can be eg 25A or 20A or 5A etc if that is still enough to handle the load.)

And yes - 87 can go to anything - an amp &/or other loads &/or a fuse box etc.
I assume your "fuse box that has multiple connections for accessories" is your own box & accessories. IE - you aren't cross connecting normal car accessories that should be off when cranking nor interconnecting IGN & ACC power.


Remember - a fuse protects the smallest thing DOWNSTREAM (cable, switch, relay) until the NEXT fuse which then protects its downstream stuff.

Equipment should have its own protective fuse, though there is no reason that any upstream fuse cannot be the same size... EG - a 20A amp could have a 20A (or 25A etc) battery fuse even if all upstream stuff handle 100A (100A cables & relay etc). Or is that too confusing? (It's just that if only using 20A through the circuit, why have an (expensive?) 100A or 80A fuse just because the cable etc is 100A. (It may be overrated to reduce voltage drops, or for FUTURE expansion which is when you would substitute appropriate fusing.
(But the battery fuse & cable & relay must handle to TOTAL load if multiple loads are fed.)




Posted By: zerovandez
Date Posted: April 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM
I understood you completely. For #86 on the relay, can this be fed with the remote wire from the head unit?




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: April 20, 2011 at 5:07 AM
The HU remote can feed it assuming it too is +12V (for on) and that it also goes through a diode if other inputs (#86 triggers) are connected.




Posted By: zerovandez
Date Posted: April 20, 2011 at 7:58 AM
Thanks so much for helping me, Oldspark. I really appreciate the time and effort you've taken to answer my questions. I'll let you know how everything goes once I get it into play. Cheers, mate.




Posted By: oldspark
Date Posted: April 20, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Thanks for the thanks. Nice!

But it sounds like (1) you have learned & (2) you understand.
That is my desire & intent. Achieving that is so rewarding in itself.
But it is nice to get the confirmation. And yeah, even though I don't care, the thanks is ruddy nice! (So I do care? Hmmm?)

Strange how content I now feel despite an awkward day... posted_image





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