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3 ohm components, 2 ohm amp

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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 4:46 AM


Topic: 3 ohm components, 2 ohm amp

Posted By: drummerdude
Subject: 3 ohm components, 2 ohm amp
Date Posted: April 17, 2011 at 2:11 PM

I have a ton of gift cards to future shop (they replaced a very expensive computer). I would like to get some of my car audio stuff there to try and save as much money as possible.

here are the parts I will be using:
Front doors - Precision Power PC3.65C 3 ohm (per voice coil) component speakers (100w RMS)
Rear Doors - Precision Power PC.52 3 ohm (per voice coil) 2-way coaxial speakers (100w RMS)

I would like to get my amps at future shop, but to get the right sized amp, I need to know what power rating to go by (I know RMS, I mean 2 ohm or 4 ohm)?

The speakers are 3 ohms, and the amps are under powered at 4 ohms (only 50w RMS), but are perfect at 2 ohms (100w RMS), which numer do I go by? Should I run one of those amps per channel or 2? optimally I would love to run the 4 channel version (same ratings but into 4 channels) and put it under the passenger seat.

I am not going for excessive volume, just a good quality sound at a decent volume (99% of the time there will be 2 children in the car, thus the lack of need for excessive volume). I am only concerned about the front speakers, rears are not as important. Obviously I would prefer a better suited amp, but I already have the gift cards, so it's kind of like being free.

 The amp I am looking at is an MTX Jackhammer (202 or 404)

Thanks for the help



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 17, 2011 at 2:31 PM
An amplifer's load rating is the LOWEST impedance it can handle.  Any load greater than that is fine.

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Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: April 17, 2011 at 2:34 PM
will the mtx jackahmmer 404 handle those speakers fine? I figure 50w RMS x 4 @ 4 ohms and 100w RMS x 4 @ 2 ohms, those 3 ohm speakers should see around 75w RMS? or am I out to lunch?

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 18, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Don't worry about the power rating you will be fine.  Just be sure to set your gain properly.

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Posted By: drummerdude
Date Posted: April 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM

well, last night I got carried away looking at a online mobile electronics warehouse, and a couple of 5 channel amps caught my eye:

MBquart ONX4.80/500  $315 shipped ($799 retail)

  • 4 ohms: 60 watts x 4 chan. + 250 watts x 1 chan.
  • 2 ohms: 120 watts x 4 chan. + 375 watts x 1 chan.
  • 1 ohm: 500 watts x 1 chan. (5th Channel Only)
  • Amplifier Class AB
    Number of Channels 5
    RMS Power (4 ohms) 60 watts x 4 chan. + 250 watts x 1 chan.
    RMS Power (2 ohms) 120 watts x 4 chan. + 375 watts x 1 chan.
    RMS Power (1 ohm) 500 watts x 1 chan. (5th Channel Only)
    Bridged RMS Power 240 watts x 2 channels
    Total RMS Power Output 980 watts
    Peak Power Output N/A
    Total Peak Power Output N/A
    Maximum Input Gauge Size 2
    Minimum Impedance Unbridged 1 ohms
    Minimum Impedance Bridged 4 Ohms
    THD at Rated RMS Power 0.05%
    Speaker Level Inputs Yes
    Preamp Outputs 1 pair
    Built-in Crossover Low-pass (LP), High-pass (HP)
    High-Pass Crossover Frequency 10 - 15,000 Hz
    Low-Pass Crossover Frequency 30 - 150 Hz
    Subsonic Filter N/A
    Signal-to-Noise Ratio >92 dB
    Channel Separation >80 dB
    Bass Boost 0 - 10 dB
    Bass/Gain Remote Yes

    Cadence ZRS-C8 $320 shipped ($599 retail)

  • 4-ohm RMS Power: 150W x 4 + 400W x 1
  • 2-ohm RMS Power: 200W x 4 + 600W x 1
  • which would be better suited to me? The MBquart is the better deal money wise, how about sound quality/features wise?

    The MB is stable to 1 ohm for the 5th channel, and would run the 1 10" kicker sub I am planning on using perfectly. but the cadence has much higher wattage for the 4 channels?



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    Posted By: drummerdude
    Date Posted: April 18, 2011 at 2:39 PM
    If I go with the Cadence, I can get a deal on a set of 140w rms 6.5/4/1 components.

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    Posted By: drummerdude
    Date Posted: April 18, 2011 at 2:40 PM

    I will have to change subs with the cadence as well, sorry for the extra posts.



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    Posted By: drummerdude
    Date Posted: April 18, 2011 at 7:14 PM
    no opinions on these 5 channel amps, or just a little shy to chime in?

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    Posted By: smalltime80
    Date Posted: April 27, 2011 at 8:37 PM
    Hey, the 5 channels are a great way to go if you're trying to run a modest system a car. Sounds like you're trying to be frugal about this and knowing MB Quart more than Cadence, I would go with the MB Quart. Sounds like it will fit your plans and it will feed your interior speakers at 3 ohms rather well.

    Also, I've tried to live by a rule of not running more than 800 watts total inside a car that has a stock charging system so if you're not interested in doing those upgrades as well, I'd recommend sticking with the MB Quart.

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