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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Topic: dvc and amp connection

Posted By: viruz187
Subject: dvc and amp connection
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 12:25 AM

Hi everyone.

I'm new to this forum and I need some advice on setting up my car audio.
I have the pioneer champion series TSW309D4 1400W DVC subwoofer 4ohms and I a calibra 600W x 2 bridgeoble amp. Its 2 ohm stable 2 ohm bridgeoble. Could I be advised as to how I go about connecting them up.Thanx



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Posted By: gandalf91
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 2:50 AM
Hey Viruz,

Do you have a model number for that amp? I can't find anything specific. Is that 600W an RMS rating or "max rating"? At either rate, it sounds like what you'll want to do is wire you voice coils in parallel, positive to positive, negative to negative. Then run the bridged positive from the amp to the positive terminal on one coil and the and the bridged negative from the amp to the negative terminal on the other coil.

Again though, more information on the amp could help. If that's 600W RMS just be careful with the amount of power you pump through it as the sub is only rated for 400.




Posted By: viruz187
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 3:07 AM
Thanx for the advise gandalf91

Its a calibra cyclops model : STR275 amp
It is 600 watts max per a channel or 1200 watts max bridged.
2 ohm stable 2 ohm bridgeoble
So does this mean it can handle the lowest load of 2 ohms?
So by connecting the voice coils in parallel the 4 ohm load should now be 2 ohms, am I correct in saying that? And would having a 2 ohm stable 2 ohm bridgeoble amp be ideal?
If I hook up the voice coils in series the independence should be 8 ohms and with that which would be better suited? Or which is better or more benificial? Thanx




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 3:54 AM

I am not familiar with that amp, but if it says 2 ohm stable, that is the stereo rating.  It might say bridgeable after that, but it is not 2 ohm mono stable.  You really need to connect one voice coil to each channel of the amp. 





Posted By: viruz187
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 4:01 AM
So if I connect each voice coil to each channel then its only going to power the subwoofer by 600watts?

Could I not conect the subwoofer voice coils in series and then connect to the amp bridged 1200watts




Posted By: viruz187
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 4:05 AM

So what would the independane be if this amp is bridged?
Let's say I bridge the amp and run a 4ohm load to it. Would that be better?




Posted By: viruz187
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 5:23 AM
Hi

I found the link to my amp

https://www.autostyle.co.za/product/18788/ST275CalibraStealth1200w2chAmp/

ST275 Calibra Stealth 1200w 2ch Amp

Total Power: 1200w
Max Power Out: 600w x 2
Continous Power Output 4ohm: 40w x 2
Max Power Output 4ohm bridge mono: 900w x 1
Continous Power Output 4ohm bridge mono: 130w x 1
Max Power Output 2ohm stereo or mono: 65w x 2
Dimensions: 230x64x253 (w x h x d mm)

Would this now be ok with my subwoofer?






Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 9:32 AM
Gandalf's wrong. You'll be running at the equivalent load of 1-ohm per channel in that mode, and you can't do that. A GOOD amp will shut down, a cheap amp (this one) will likely fry. That amp cannot bridge into a 2-ohm load.

You MUST wire the coils in SERIES! NOT PARALLEL!!! Take a jumper wire. Connect it between a positive terminal on one side of the woofer to the negative terminal on the OTHER side of the woofer magnet. Now, forget it's there. You now have in your hands an 8-ohm SVC woofer. Bridge the amplifier to the remaining terminals, and you'll be powering it with a total of 80WRMS.

A second option: Bridge the amplifier to ONE VOICE COIL ONLY. If you use one voice coil only, you'll be powering it with 130WRMS, but it might likely have (marginally) less output than the first option I mentioned.

The woofer is rated 1400W. That's peak. Half of that is 700W. Half of that (because you're only running one voice coil) is 350W. If you run 130 watts into a single voice coil, you'll be perfectly safe.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."




Posted By: viruz187
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Hi haemphyst

Thanx for the advise, I think I would go with the first option of connecting them in series. I read on sites that all voices coils must be connected or run the risk of failure to the woofer.I would like to get the most output off my woofer.




Posted By: gandalf91
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 10:07 AM
Haemphyst, I was assuming the amp could actually be bridged 2 ohms like the OP said which I guess it can't... If that were actually true that would not make me wrong.




Posted By: gandalf91
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 10:08 AM
* Another reason why I asked about RMS vs. Max.




Posted By: viruz187
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Hi guys I just got a hold of my manual for my amplifier and the specs are as follows :

Max power out put 4ohm stereo or mono - 600w x 2ch
Continuos power output 4ohm stereo or mono - 40w x 2ch
Max power output 4ohm bridge mono - 900w x 1ch
Continuous power output 4ohm bridge mono - 130w x 1ch
Continuous power output 2ohm stereo or mono - 65w x 2ch
Frequency response +/- 1db - 10hz-50khz
Total harmonic distortion - >0.05% with 80hz BPF
Signal to noise ratio(aiweighted) - >97db
Input sensitivity - 250mv-4v
Input impedance - 20k ohm
Channel seperation - >50db
Damping factor - >180db
Output impendance - 2ohm
High pass filter frequency - 80hz
Low pass filter frequency - 120hz




Posted By: viruz187
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 11:55 AM
I hope this helps and could clear stuff up so a solution can be concluded. Thanx





Posted By: gandalf91
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Follow the procedure laid out by Haemphyst. Being newer here, I simply did not want to come in and promptly start accusing others of supplying bad information, so I detailed how to wire the coils IF you had an amp that could bridge a 2-ohm load (and there are high end ones that can) while I tried to find more details on the amplifier. I guess I won't be doing that again. (No offense to you personally Viruz.)




Posted By: viruz187
Date Posted: October 06, 2011 at 1:16 PM
None taken, its ok to advise , I mean u guys know so much more than I do and we learn somethin new everyday
I will follow the haemp
Thanx





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