Print Page | Close Window

winisd, alpine swr 1043d

Printed From: the12volt.com
Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=130913
Printed Date: April 18, 2024 at 12:13 AM


Topic: winisd, alpine swr 1043d

Posted By: b_real45
Subject: winisd, alpine swr 1043d
Date Posted: March 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM

I've been playing around with WinISD for a while now and I have a few manually entered subwoofers in the program now.  What I've noticed is that to produce the best flat response (keeping around .707), most of the suggested air-space volume doesn't match manufacturer recommendations.  Is this typical?  Should I stick to manufacturer suggested air-space or would I get better results following WinISD?

For example, I plugged in the Alpine SWR-1043D into WinISD.  I know WinISD is tricky and it likes to go out three decimal places, but I put in enough parameters and played with a few until all specs match Alpine's parameters (according to the sub's manual) when all numbers are rounded to the nearest decimal.  Here's what I have in WinISD for the Alpine:

posted_image

The above matches very well to the Alpine sub manual yet WinISD recommends air-space of .928 ft^3 for a sealed inclosure - which means about a 1.0 ft^3 box when accounting for the sub displacing about .08 ft^3 (as per its manual).  Alpine's manual recommends a net internal volume of 0.5 ft^3.

What do you think would be best - stick with Alpine recommended or go with WinISD?  I just want a sealed box that produces good quality bass - not looking for SPL and not dB dragging. 

Thanks



-------------
Rob



Replies:

Posted By: b_real45
Date Posted: March 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Btw, if anyone is wondering, yes I DID do a search.  I've found responses like "WinISD is more accurate and manufacturer only suggests "safe" solutions.." and also "manufacturer knows their products better and would want to extend the best possible recommendation to show-off their product".

Basically the searches can produce contradictary results.  And I've not only searched this site but Google'd the crap out of it.  I thought 12volt would be the best place to get a good answer from those who've actually trialed and errored.



-------------
Rob




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: March 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM
In general, WinISD will create a model that satisfies whatever parameters you input.  You can model for any system Q you like, etc.  Manufacturers tend to suggest alignments they think will "sound good" to the majority of users out there.  They may or may not design for a system Q that you might like.  They tend to shoot for the widest possible acceptance for the type of user they think buys their drivers.  One interesting thing to do is input the design parameters from the MFG and see how they model in something like WnISD... then make up your own mind.  :)

-------------
Support the12volt.com





Print Page | Close Window