monster vs stinger + sub box for caddy
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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Topic: monster vs stinger + sub box for caddy
Posted By: D148L0
Subject: monster vs stinger + sub box for caddy
Date Posted: May 21, 2003 at 3:48 PM
Need help deciding: I've been always a monster cable interconnectors fan, but now I'm doubt: Monster Cable Interlink 401XLN vs Stinger expert series... same price range, but who has the best noise reduction?, and will 5m (16.40ft) be enough dash-trunk? (the car is a cadillac sedan de ville). Also I really would appreciate any suggestion about what kind of subwoofer box to use in that car. I'm thinking of a sealed one, taking out the factory's 6x9 from the rear deck, and maybe making a couple more holes. Does anybody know if the Snake_tubes from subzone are worth using and how to? the manufacturer claims that "For custom applications, such as venting the enclosure through a rear deck, Snake Tube can be easily installed outside the enclosure." IMO maybe I could gain some SPL (who wouldn't like to?) but with loss in SQ... (loose tubes floating aronund?? mm....) The subwoofer is a nakamichi SPW-1200 (450W RMS DVC 6ohms, can be used in sealed, ported or free air)wired to a nakamichi PA-4001 (400W RMS @ 2ohms) Thanks a lot! }:)D148L0 ------------- D148L0
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Posted By: Blazermedic
Date Posted: May 21, 2003 at 3:54 PM
I would say use the Monster interconnects and forget the stuff about using snaketube to create ports up through your rear deck. What type of box you should use depends on sveeral things. Check out the link at the bottom of the page for some helpful considerations when choosing a sub box. Personally, I'm always partial to properly built sealed boxes. Some helpful things to tell us would be the type of music you listen to and a link to the specs of the sub.
Cary
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Posted By: Blazermedic
Date Posted: May 21, 2003 at 3:59 PM
I would say use the Monster interconnects and forget the stuff about using snaketube to create ports up through your rear deck. What type of box you should use depends on sveeral things. Check out the link at the bottom of the page for some helpful considerations when choosing a sub box. Personally, I'm always partial to properly built sealed boxes. Some helpful things to tell us would be the type of music you listen to and a link to the specs of the sub.
Cary
https://www.eatel.net/~amptech/elecdisc/spboxnew2.htm
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Posted By: D148L0
Date Posted: May 21, 2003 at 4:18 PM
Thanks BM! I already check all the links in this site... my main concern is the characteristics of the car would be better for another kind of box, but I guess nothing beats sealed... (I'm also very partial about it, hehe) here is the link to the sub specs: https://nakamichi.com/auto/subwoofer/sp_w1200d_specs.htm Thanks again! D148L0 ------------- D148L0
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 21, 2003 at 6:56 PM
As far as the interconnects go you will not hear a difference between the two, so get what ever ones you like best. That is a nice sub and will put out some real clean sound. I would suggest you use a sealed enclosure. As far as porting the trunk into the cabin I would suggest you cut a whole in between the 6X9 in the middle of the rear deck and vent the trunk. To get a clean look you can build a speaker grill the same color as the rear deck. to cover it you will want to use a grill cloth similar to this https://www.speakerworks.net/grill_cloth.html I have done this many times and it gives a good clean stock look.
Posted By: Blazermedic
Date Posted: May 21, 2003 at 7:06 PM
That's a real good idea that bberman1 has about cutting a hole in the rear deck between the 6x9s, but I wonder how you would calculate the size for the port hole. I guess I think about this and I start seeing all the problems that could come out of this idea. (imaging for one, resonance another)
Cary
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Posted By: D148L0
Date Posted: May 21, 2003 at 8:00 PM
a ported hole in the trunk? very interesting!! but I'm kinda confused now... Let me explain a couple of things first... In the caddy the factory 6x9 only have a bass function. I want to remove them since I'm taking off all the premium sound. So I would end with 2 6x9 holes. The thing is that it seems to me (Previous experience) that in that case you lose a lot of SPL in the cabin, that is why I asked for suggestions, like making more holes.... If I got you right bberman, you only meant to make a hole and cover it, right? Or, if as blazermedic says, your idea is to port that hole and make of the whole trunk a big pseudo passband box, wouldn't be better to close the 6x9 holes and reinforce the rear deck with MDF? The specs of the port would be no problem (thanks the12volt.com!!) Sincerely, it's an interesting idea (never heard of anything like that), and the grill cloth suggestion was great, even better than the one I was gonna buy, it looks exactly like the one covering the tweeters... I would appreciate If you could explain us what you meant... Thanks again! D148L0while the ------------- D148L0
Posted By: ivant2
Date Posted: May 21, 2003 at 10:53 PM
I just had a box built that is a 4th order bandpass ported into the rear deck of the car and mine sounds great (SPL/SQ) I cut the port hole in the rear in between where the two 6x9 locations are and then made a fiberglass lip around it to give the apperance of it belonging. After completing this we later testing the freq spectrum @ 1 sec 1 hz we had only two dead spots one at 14 hz and hen later at 63 hz. not bad i would say with a 5 hz test only in between 60 and 65 hz did it finally drop off. Also was able to achieve a high of 145.6 with my SPL in the car and amazingly enough it was louder with the doors sealed up then with them wide open ( 3 db differ).
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Music is life, the rest is just details.
Posted By: D148L0
Date Posted: May 21, 2003 at 11:02 PM
Ivant2, did you sealed the 6x9 holes? did you put the box port into the hole in the middle or did you put an independent port in the hole?? thanx! ------------- D148L0
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 9:22 AM
No you got me right D148l0 I was referring to making the whole in between the 6X9’s so the trunk could breathe (like putting the back seat down). If you’re using a sealed enclosure this is the way to go, I have done it several times in the past and it sounds really nice. I don’t know how much space you have in between the 6X9's but this way you will still be able to add new 6X9's and "vent " the trunk to the cabin at the same time . If you make 1 good size whole that’s all you will need. But if you going for SPL then I would go with a ported box and port it up through the rear deck into the cabin as Blazermedic suggested. So the port would start inside the enclosure and end at the top of your rear deck.
Posted By: D148L0
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 10:17 AM
I rather have more SQ than SPL... I'm going with the hole in the middle and the 6x9 out, that will be perfect... I just bought 4 MB quart RSC-213 to be located in the factory positions (the car has very good soundstage the way it is, you probably know that) powered with a nakamichi PA-1004. In a near future, as soon as I'm $$$ recovered, I would like to install a 8" sub or a midbass drive in the front, below the dash... (focal and image dinamics are in my mind now), and replace the factory center channel with maybe an MB quart... Does any store sell single MB's?? 4" or 4x6 would be great.... Thanks for all your help guys!!
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Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 10:58 AM
That’s some nice equipment and sounds like it will be a nice set up. I don’t know of any places that sell the RSC 210 separately. And that sub up front will give you some incredible dynamic sound.
Posted By: Big Purds
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 7:27 PM
Focal has a 5" sub that performs very well despite its size...sounds like most 8s and is very versatile for mounting applications...may want to consider using it as your center channel...
the 5m will be plenty for your Caddy, I used them for an install in my friends Sedan deVille...as was afforementioned, you will not hear the difference between the two sets of RCAs so buy whatever better suits your budget/install/cosmetic taste...
the Naks sound great sealed, but I havent heard one ported yet...if you do port it, lemme know what you think...good luck...
Posted By: D148L0
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 9:11 PM
Big Purds, for center channel I was considering a coax, or a midrange... unfortunately the only brand I have seen selling single midranges is JL... even if it's one of their best models, I'd rather have MB or focal... the factory speaker in the dash is 4x6, and I don't know if the depth or diameter available is enough for a 5" sub... since the car is FWD there is no transmission bump, so I have plenty of space to put a 8" - 10" in a kick panel... Thanks for the feed on the naka, I love the brand but this is my first sub of this model (I owned several JL's), so it's good news... The box is gonna be sealed, but if I get any opinion or get to listen to a ported one, I'll let u know... thanks a lot!
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