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kicker 15" install

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Topic: kicker 15" install

Posted By: spyder1125
Subject: kicker 15" install
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 10:13 AM

Hi my friend has a 99 Nissan Maxima and he wants to get 2 Kicker 15" L7 Solo-Barics for his car.  I'm thinking that the Kicker KX1200.1 is sufficient to power these.  I want to know how I should wire the subs for the most power without screwing up the amp.  Also what gauge wiring should I use for this setup?  Is 4ga good enough?

The amp has                                                                                                  The L7s have

300 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms                                                                      power range 75-1,000 watts RMS

600 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms                                                                      (500 watts per coil)

1200 watts RMS x 1 at 1 ohm ---preferably (is it okay to use?)             peak power handling 2,000 watts

Which ohms should I use for these speakers.  Can I use 1 ohm?  If so, how do I wire the subs?  Also, I'm thinking I should use a capacitor for this setup...should I?  I've done a few installs, nothing major like this though.  I would be saving my friend $600 if I install it, because he's gonna buy the stuff cheap, instead of paying $1400 for everything installed.  I need as much advice as I can get, thanks.




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Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 10:35 AM
 I would find some thing more powerful. Or use 2 KX1200.1 But to hook up the setup you have listed above you will want to get the 4ohm DVC model subs and wire them in parallel (2nd diagram down here) https://www.audiobahninc.com/tech/wiring/parallel_parallel_dual_4.pdf That will give you a 1ohm load and you would get the max power out of that set up. If you were to get 2 KX1200.1 (which would be my suggestion) you will want to get the 2 ohm DVC subs and wire each one to its own amp using the 1st diagram above.  As far as the cable size is depends on what setup he uses? Also how much is he looking to spend on the amp(s)?




Posted By: spyder1125
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 6:21 PM
he just wants to use that one amp...how much power will it produce to each sub if he uses the KX1200.1?  You said something more powerful to use, what is more powerful, he just wants one amp powering the two 15s (in my opinion he's crazy for even doing this, but w/e, he'll learn) posted_image




Posted By: spyder1125
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 6:31 PM

say i want to stick with the one KX1200.1, get the two 4ohm DVC models and wire them in parallel to get that 1 ohm load.  Am I gonna be getting 1200 watts to each sub or 600 to each making it combined 1200?  Would the 1 ohm setup be okay?





Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 6:36 PM
The KX1200.1 and the (2) L7's  (4ohm) wired in parallel will present the amp with a 1 ohm load putting out 1200 watts total 600 to each sub. Now these subs won’t sound bad at 600 watts but to bring out there true beauty and potential I would run 1000 rms to each. As far as other suggestions I would need to know his price range. But for around $275 per amp he could get some JBL 1200.1’s https://www.sounddomain.com/sku/JBLBP12001   which put out 1200 watts @ both 1and 2 ohms.  Which is probably about $100 more then he is paying now and those amps will do those subs some justice. If he really has some money to spend I would suggest a MMATS DHCx2000.1 https://www.mmatsproaudio.com/classd.php




Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 6:37 PM

You would get 600 per sub and yes 1 ohm is ok





Posted By: spyder1125
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 7:13 PM
ok, scratch the whole idea of the 2 15s, he wants to get two 12s with as much power going to them as possible with a $1600 budget.  Any ideas?  What amp would you recommend and subs?  How are we going to wire them?




Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 7:33 PM
If he has $1600 he can get something allot better than that kicker set up, I would suggest  you look into Diamond Audio or Eclipse if you have a budget that high https://www.diamondaudio.com Eclipse https://www.eclipse-web.com




Posted By: spyder1125
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 7:42 PM
he's now obsessed with Alphasonik because they "look beautiful"...what do you guys think.  https://www.alphasonik.com/frameset.html  He wants the 12s PSW812 and PMA1000HC @ 1 ohm 1500watts x 2 what do you guys think, ever hear of this company?  He can get the amp, the 2 12s, the box, the cap, and install for $1600...is that good?




Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 8:11 PM
I have never heard any of the stuff bearing their name but they are owned by the same people as Audiobahn  https://www.audiobahninc.com they even use the same mailing address  ( I have been there many times) and have the same specs as  Audiobahn's equipment . I have used top of the line Audiobahn equipment and would never waste my money it again and I would not suggest he wastes his money either. He is better off getting top quality equipment for the amount of money he is going to spend. Both Diamond and Eclipse are among the best manufactures in the car audio world, and I have used both products and can tell you that they are worth every penny. But to tell you the truth when it comes to car audio looks are very deceiving. Most of the top manufactures equipment looks like crap. If you picked it up and did not know what it was you would think it was garbage. It’s all marketing, people see something that has nice esthetics and think it must be good and they buy it, but in reality it could be the worst equipment on the market.  All they know is it looks good so it must sound good trust me that’s a costly mistake; I have seen it way too many times.




Posted By: JollyGreenGiant
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 8:12 PM

How damn convenient.  I was just going to ask about the same exact question when I looked at the site and found this forum.  I am planning on either putting a single 15 inch kicker L7 in a vented box (about 5 cubic feet) or two 15 inch L7s in a box with roughly 2.5 cubic feet for each sub.  I'm pretty sure I wont be able to afford to buy 2 JBL BP1200.1s (my preference for an amp) at the same time and I'm POSITIVE that my cars stock power system will not be able to handle two let alone one of these amps, so my question is this.  Should I go for the set up with one 15 L7 running with 1200 watts RMS into it, or the 2 L7s with only 600 watts RMS into each?  I think the really large enclosure would be benificial, but would 2 15s sound better (louder in this case) even if they are getting half the power?  Can the L7s handle more than 1,000 RMS?  Would be nice to not be concerned with the sub getting messed up by putting too much power into it.  As for the power wire to be run, I'm honestly not sure.  I was told to get 2 gauge wire with a 150 amp ANL fuse to run one of those amps, but I'm pretty sure the amp will only accept 4 gauge wire, so to me that means that anything over 4 would be over doing it.  I already got a fuse block that goes from I/0 gauge into two 4 gauge outputs with an ANL fuse for each output.  They are really cheap on eBay, and it seems pretty well manufactured.  I've also heard great things about the 1200.1, so you should probably go with that set up, they are pretty cheap as compared to like Kickers, MTX, and Fosgate.

-Jon





Posted By: spyder1125
Date Posted: May 22, 2003 at 10:23 PM

i looked at the TDX 12D4 by Diamond Audio and it says they produce 1500RMS  So If I get 2 of these and an Eclipse DA7232 amp that says it has Maximum power output of 2000W (both channels) into a 2posted_image load.  Is this a good setup to go with, or is it overkill?





Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 23, 2003 at 8:52 AM
No that is one hell of a set up, it’s on a totally different side of the spectrum than the kickers. That set up will put out more clean undistorted bass than you will know what to do with. Your friend will defiantly be one of the big doggs in the neighborhood running that. One more suggestion would be to look at the Eclipse Titanium’s 88120TI DVC (SW9122) they are some awesome subs.





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