Monster vs. Fostgate
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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Printed Date: May 12, 2025 at 11:14 AM
Topic: Monster vs. Fostgate
Posted By: showdwar
Subject: Monster vs. Fostgate
Date Posted: May 24, 2003 at 10:04 AM
I currently have a monster rca running from the deck to my sub amp. I am installing another amp for the interior speakers. I bought some fosgate rca's....any comments. Is there a better one or are they basically the same?
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Posted By: Sebastian018
Date Posted: May 24, 2003 at 10:06 AM
Basically the same.. Quality
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 24, 2003 at 10:13 AM
If you had 10 different brands of interconnects in your car you would not be able to hear a difference between any of them. So other than their looks you won’t be able to tell
Posted By: trdgts
Date Posted: May 24, 2003 at 2:18 PM
i always hear this argument, and i believe it...but if it is true, why are there so many different models put out by monster...theres like the 201xln 301xln 401xln microxln etc. if there is no difference why do they bother making them?
Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: May 24, 2003 at 5:05 PM
monster might make the fosgate or some one else for that matter. just cause it has the fosgate name or monster or any one of the others does not mean they are the ones who manufactured them. they fosgate and monster are both very good so go with the best price.
------------- Big Dave
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 25, 2003 at 10:30 AM
I'm not saying that there is not a difference but I’m saying you will never hear a difference. The company’s design a new supper duper cable that theoretically has an improvement over their last years top of the line model, but the only benefit is it will get a better number in a test lab somewhere. In an actual real world application there will most likely be no benefits to using the new supper duper cable over their older model cable. Now why do they do this for marketing and money. If people hear they have a new cable out better than the last years model ,they will buy it because they want better sound or have to have the best of the best. But in reality they will not hear a differences between the two, well maybe in there heads they will. But once you get a good $20 or$30 interconnects you will not be able to hear a difference between that and a $200 or $300 cable. And yes it is true I do see may companies that have the same cable with different names on them and a huge difference in price.
Posted By: showdwar
Date Posted: May 25, 2003 at 1:34 PM
thanks for the input guys....again, I really don't see how one company can be better. Same technology is out there for everyone.
------------- There's nothin' like good music played on a good system!
Posted By: teezer
Date Posted: May 25, 2003 at 2:08 PM
bberman1 wrote:
If you had 10 different brands of interconnects in your car you would not be able to hear a difference between any of them. So other than their looks you won’t be able to tell
Not true, monster has very goodrca's and so does fosgate, but if you throw any piece of crap in there it will sound like it. Period. there is a diffeerence in SQ when you use low end cables, look for twisted rca's, they reduce noise way better than non-twisted cables do.
Posted By: Big Purds
Date Posted: May 25, 2003 at 3:37 PM
lol bberman, it is amazing how psycho-acoustics work...
if you put a 300 dollar set of RCAs into your car after rolling with your 30 dollar set, you WANT to hear that difference, or you will think you just wasted ur money...and for listening purposes, you have just done that...
but as far as your ears are actually concerned, you will not hear a difference in any of the decent brand name RCAs...the only ones you may hear a difference in is non-twisted non-insulated generic Radio Shack RCAs if your car has alot of electrical noise interference in it...
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: May 25, 2003 at 10:57 PM
Teezer you are correct, and I was not very specific when I said 10 different pairs of interconnects. I should have said 10 good quality interconnects. And yes you will hear a difference between a Radio shack $1 interconnect, and a good $20 or $30 twisted and shielded cable. But beyond that good $20 or $30 interconnect your not going to hear a difference no matter how much you pay.
Posted By: trdgts
Date Posted: May 26, 2003 at 11:28 AM
good explanation :) i was thinking it was all marketing, but like you i stick with the $20 monster cables because im happy with the sound, i doubt anything higher will sound different. i jus thought they would LOSE money from manufacturing cables that hardly anyone would buy. but i guess there are a lot of people that spend the money jus because...
Posted By: esmith69
Date Posted: May 26, 2003 at 1:37 PM
Some of the more expensive models in Monster's line are a lil more durable than the others and they look cooler, but you will never hear the difference between the top of the line 75 dollar cable and the entry-level 25 dollar cable that they make. But to be totally honest, unless you really abuse the cable when installing it, the high end model will not really hold up all that much better than the entry level one. This seems to be the case for pretty much all the other manufacturers out there, but there is one exception. Rockford Fosgate makes those silly Gamma Matrix RCAs that do a good job of shielding the signal from interference, but so do RF's entry level cables; and the problem with the Gamma MAtrix ones is that whoever designed the plugs on those cables wanted to have them be removable for easier install, but they sacrificed durability by doing so. I have seen MANY gamma matrix RCAs with broken ends (not the tip but the part that surrounds it), to the point where the cable will not stay plugged in unless you wrap some electrical tape around the terminal and the plug. It's kind of hard to explain just what I mean but I'm sure those of you who carry/install these cables know all too well what i'm talking about. Needless to say, I have never seen a pair of broken RF RCAs from any of their other models--just the supposedly high end gamma matrix ones. And I've never been able to tell a difference in sound between the models. However, I HAVE been able to tell a difference (albeit very minimal) between the "freebie" type RCAs that have hardly any shielding and are untwisted; also these cables are just very flimsy and one pull the wrong way when installing them can easily damage the cable. ------------- Ethan
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Posted By: esmith69
Date Posted: May 26, 2003 at 1:45 PM
Just wanted to clarify something: when I was referring to "gamma matrix RCAs" I'm talking about this particular kind. There are others that use the word gamma in their name but are very different from this one. ------------- Ethan
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Posted By: trdgts
Date Posted: May 26, 2003 at 5:01 PM
thanks :) i know what you mean about the durability. but i think i'll be sticking with the 201XLNs for a while
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