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Speakers Clip At Higher Volume

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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=145543
Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 12:16 AM


Topic: Speakers Clip At Higher Volume

Posted By: jamesrundles
Subject: Speakers Clip At Higher Volume
Date Posted: July 27, 2019 at 2:22 PM

I recently replaced all stock midrange speakers and now I have a problem. I ran all new wire from the head out. It is 12 gauge wire. I put in some bass blockers then went to like 20 gauge wire for about 8 inches to the speaker. The bass blocker is soldered directly to the speaker. I used a pioneer 6.5 for midrange. At lower volumes they sound great at higher volume they start to clip out and distort and sou d really bad. Before I reace them again I was wondering if the differences in wire is my issue. Please advise and thanks.

James



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Posted By: eguru
Date Posted: July 27, 2019 at 4:01 PM
Bypass the bass blockers and see if that solves it. The wire is not the issue.




Posted By: jamesrundles
Date Posted: July 27, 2019 at 6:27 PM
If bypassing the blockers fixes this issue what would you all suggest I use to Remove low end bass signals from the midrange without useing a crossover network




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 28, 2019 at 2:05 PM
Why did you change the wires? I understand if you have an amplifier that does 200 actual watts per channel. You said from the head unit to the new speakers. What vehicle is it? Did you possibly unknowingly bypass a factory amplifier?




Posted By: jamesrundles
Date Posted: July 28, 2019 at 5:50 PM
It is a 2004 mitsubishi endeavor. I knowingly bypassed the factory amp which is why I ran new wire from the head unit out. I have amp and subs and just want the bass out of the mids. So I replacrd factory speakers and added blockers now I cant turn it up without it clipping and distorting really bad. The speakers have no power to them only what the head pushes like 30 watts. So now evertything that was stock is either unplugged or removed and everything is rewired. With the stock speakers in I didn't have this problem so it most likely is the blockers so I will remove them and test then post the results.




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: July 28, 2019 at 7:39 PM
Does your radio not have a crossover? What is the make and model of the deck?

If your stock radio was working, Could this have helped?




Posted By: jamesrundles
Date Posted: August 02, 2019 at 12:18 PM
Radio does not have a crossover. It is a simple dual brand dvd media player deck. The factory was fine. Had some CDs stuck but ok sound. The setup from stock was not able to add anything so I was told. Anyway I took off the blockers on the back 2 doors and it is able to play louder a bit but still pops and sounds muffled or muddy. The front sounds fine untill it clips and pops. Not sure what to do next. I get better sound when I fade it to the front a couple clicks.




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: August 04, 2019 at 12:43 PM
Speakers don't clip, amplifiers clip. If what you are hearing is actually clipping it is likely that the impedance of your replacement speakers is too low. If the speakers are actually causing the issue, then you are over-driving them with too much power.

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Posted By: jamesrundles
Date Posted: August 04, 2019 at 2:08 PM
Thanks to all for the suggestions. At the end of the day yesterday I pulled off all the bass blockers and all was better. My head unit has a loud frequency cutoff of 400 800 and 2400mhz. Not sure how this all really wirks I'm assuming it acts as a frequency blocker ir crossover of sorts. Set it on 400 and played with the 7 band and I think I got it where I can live with it. If there is anyone who can explain the cutoff thing id appreciate it. It is a xdvd276bt dual unit. And not sure if clippong was the right phrase more poping and distorting as there is only head power no extra amp. Anyway thanks




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: August 04, 2019 at 7:22 PM
When a speaker makes a popping sound that is generally caused by either a bad connection or too much power driving the speaker to hit the mechanical stops (AKA, bottoming out.) Based on your post I'd guess you are a beginner, yes? I'd have to look up the owners manual for your head unit but I'm guessing what you are referring to as "cutoffs" are crossover settings. The 400 is likely a high-pass setting and is appropriate for a midrange speaker as it will prevent the majority of bass frequencies from getting to the speaker. What are you using for the rest of the system?

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Posted By: jamesrundles
Date Posted: August 07, 2019 at 11:50 AM
Dyohn thanks. However I am far from a beginner I do not work in the business just have done alot of my own systems and such. As i stated before I removed all bass blockers and the popping is gone now I have too much treble. As I always have had. The cutoffs work like you explained. More bass at 2400 than at 400. Think I'm good now. Thanks to all





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