MA audio amp over a kicker amp?
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Topic: MA audio amp over a kicker amp?
Posted By: dr_jdelara
Subject: MA audio amp over a kicker amp?
Date Posted: July 31, 2003 at 11:35 PM
would anyone choose MA audio amps over Kicker amps? Also, how bout audiobahn amps over kicker and MA audio amps?
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Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: July 31, 2003 at 11:41 PM
Starting to veer away from a straight Kicker system heh. Good to see that you're willing to keep your options open.
Between the three, Audiobahn gets my vote ------------- Squirrel
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Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: July 31, 2003 at 11:49 PM
dr_jdelara I think you already know I would go with the Audiobahn 
Posted By: dr_jdelara
Date Posted: July 31, 2003 at 11:52 PM
What audiobahn amp would yall recomend for the 2 comp vr's?
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: July 31, 2003 at 11:57 PM
Posted By: dr_jdelara
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:17 AM
what about a MA Audio MA1382HX 1000w 2-Ch High Current Amp for my kicker comp vr's
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:21 AM
Personally I would suggest you go with A JBL 1200.1 https://www.purecaraudio.com/product.asp?0=200&1=352&3=322 But you don’t want a High Current amp they are very inefficient. When looking far a sub amp try and stick with a class D amp
Posted By: dr_jdelara
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:23 AM
well you see, im looking on ebay for amps for around 200-280 dollars.
Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:26 AM
The A8001DT is a good amp, and would work well with 2 CompVR's. You just have to have the right ohm load. The rating you would shoot for with that amp is 800 x 1 @ 1ohm. So you would want to get (2) 4ohm CompVR's and wire in parallel for the 1ohm load.
Some other options from Audiobahn...
Class D (0.05% THD)
A18001DT - 1200 x 1 @ 2ohms mono (mono-channel amp)
A12001DT - 1200 x 1 @ 1ohm mono (mono-channel amp)
A8001DT - 800 x 1 @ 1ohm mono (mono-channel amp)
Intake Series (0.02% THD)
A8002T - 800 x 1 @ 4ohms mono (2-channel amp)
A8000T - 800 x 1 @ 2ohms mono (mono-channel amp)
Class AB (0.02% THD)
A5100T - 800 x 1 @ 1ohm mono (2-channel amp)
A3201T - 840 x 1 @ 4ohms mono (2-channel amp)
High Current Series (unknown THD)
A2300HCT - 600 x 2 @ 4ohms (2-channel amp)
A2200HCT - 800 x 1 @ 2ohms mono, 600 x 2 @ 1ohm stereo (2-channel amp)
A2150HCT - 1200 x 1 @ 1ohm mono (2-channel amp)
A1300HCT - 1200 x 1 @ 1ohm mono (mono-channel amp)
A1500HCT - 1000 x 1 @ 2ohms mono (mono-channel amp)
I still prefer a Class D mono amp over a multi-channel Class AB for running subs, but sometimes the price difference can be a factor.
If you can afford the A8001DT, then it's worth the money.
The JBL BP1200.1 is also an excellent amp. Just be sure to watch the gains, because you would be running around 600 watts per sub. The nice part about the 1200.1 is it has the same power output at 2ohms as it does at 1ohm, so it wouldn't matter if you bought (2) 2ohm CompVR's or (2) 4ohm CompVR's ------------- Squirrel
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Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:30 AM
You can buy the JBL 1200.1 for $279 here https://www.purecaraudio.com/product.asp?0=200&1=352&3=322 I have done this setup (1200.1 and Comp VR's) quite a few times and they are a good match. Just be sure to adjust the gains correctly. Now with the 1200.1 it puts out the same amount or power at both 1&2ohms so it doesn’t matter if you have the 2 or 4 ohm Comp subs just wire them in parallel https://www.audiobahninc.com/tech/wiring/parallel_parallel_dual_4.pdf
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:33 AM
wvsquirrel I guess we must think the same way.
Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:43 AM
great minds 
One of my co-workers just took my advice and bought a BP1200.1 to destroy a Power Acoustik FUBR-12 (after all, it's only 700 RMS but 1800Peak, and any "decient" DVC should be able to reliably handle RMS+half the difference between RMS and Peak). He definately proved the ratings wrong when he destroyed that sub with only 1200 watts in less than 30 minutes! He was still amazed at how much power, and cleaner signal, were produced (before the sub blew obviously) compared to a Kenwood that he was running. Those JBL BP's are gonna corner the market pretty soon! ------------- Squirrel
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Posted By: dr_jdelara
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:49 AM
its me again fellas, how about planet audio amps compared to all the rest we have been talking about.
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:56 AM
They defiantly dominate this forum. A while back I did the same thing with some 250 watt rms or so Autotech subs. I didn’t think they would last 10 minuets but they actually lasted a couple days of driving around with the smell of burning voice coils before they started smoking.
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 12:59 AM
Planet Audio is pretty decent. However I would suggest that you go with the JBL
Posted By: dr_jdelara
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 1:04 AM
well i guess you got me on the JBL band wagon, all this talking of massive power with this JBL amp has got me anxious to see what it can do. thanks guys.
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 1:11 AM
Good to hear you won’t be disappointed  Just be sure to adjust the gains properly (I would actually turn them down a little more then normal) https://incolor.inebraska.com/weisinator/car-audio-basics/set_amp_gains.htm
Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 1:26 AM
Your welcome. You wont be sorry with the BP1200.1. Just watch the gain setting like we said earlier and you should be very happy.
One thing with the JBL setup is even though it is a "mono" amp, it has 2 sets of sub terminals. It is internally bridged, not externally. The second set of terminals was added for ease of adding multiple subwoofers. According to JBL, you can either...
1) Have a 1ohm total load using just one of the terminal sets (leaving the other set unused), or
2) Have no lower than a 2ohm total load on each terminal set (which gets converted to 1ohm total load due to the internal bridge).
So with DVC's, you can still use (2) 2 or 4 ohm subs, you would just attatch them differently to the amp. Here's how...
BP1200.1 and (2) 2ohm DVC's
You would wire the subs in series/parallel to only one terminal set (leaving the other terminal set on the BP1200.1 empty). You will have a 2ohm total load and receive the 1200 x 1 @ 2ohm rating
BP1200.1 and (2) 4ohm DVC's
You would wire each sub in parallel to it's own terminal set (each sub would be on it's "channel", even though they are still the same "technical" channel). Each terminal set would have a 2ohm total load, producing a 1ohm total load due to the internal bridge. You would receive the 1200 x 1 @ 1ohm rating.
Let us know if you need diagrams when you get the amp, and we'll be happy to send you one.
Since JBL (as with most other manufacturers) rates on a 14.4volt electrical system, you wont get the full 1200 watts. You should get somewhere around 1000 - 1100 watts on a 12volt electrical system, provided your alternator can handle the load. The max current draw is 114amps, I believe the nominal draw is around 60-80amps.
One last thing (I know I'm long winded!), you will want to use a 4 gauge amp kit for power (I believe 4awg is the largest diameter that the BP series will accept). ------------- Squirrel
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Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: August 01, 2003 at 1:28 AM
great minds again bberman! ------------- Squirrel
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