2002 toyota echo ideas
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Topic: 2002 toyota echo ideas
Posted By: c.c.
Subject: 2002 toyota echo ideas
Date Posted: August 02, 2003 at 9:19 AM
does anyone have an install in an echo, or has any ideas about one. i have a basic one now, but am looking to improve on it. i thought it would be cool, as the name of the car is a reference to sound.
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Posted By: -oz-
Date Posted: August 02, 2003 at 5:58 PM
Dude, I'd replace the factory stereo with something a little nicer first. How much money are you willing to spend? What kind of performance are you looking for?
Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: August 02, 2003 at 6:09 PM
If you’re looking for creative install ideas I would suggest you check out CAR Domain although they don’t have too many Echo install pics, you can check out other cars and get ideas. https://www.cardomain.com If you want some suggestions about a system design just let us know what kind of sound your looking for a general idea of what you want and your budget. And we will give you some suggestions.
Posted By: c.c.
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 5:55 PM
yeah, i replaced the entire stereo so far, i've got a kenwood kdc-mp822 unit, kenwood 6.5's in the doors, RF 4" in the dash (the kenwoods wouldn't fit right), kenwood 6x9's on the rear deck, two infinity 1030w's in .75 cft boxes i built myself to match sub specs. for amps i have a 60x4 kenwood powering the fronts and rears, and a 460w @ 4 ohms kenwood powering the subs. but i have them in series, so its 8 ohms, about 230w. the only problem i have really is that the sound stage is kinda low, and the bass is a little biased toward the back. i tried to turn the crossover point lower on the subs, but that didnt help much. (its at 70 on the amp dial, although i think its closer to 80-85hz). i am mainly going for SQ, although i like techno a lot so it has to have some bump too.
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Posted By: c.c.
Date Posted: August 06, 2003 at 6:00 PM
oh, four gauge wire is split ot two 8 gauge wires, one for each amp. i have a 1farad cap for each amp. would the rca cables make a difference in the imaging? ive got tsunami now (bought @ circuit city), i have no noise, but would a different rca affect the soundstage?
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Posted By: pfitz
Date Posted: August 15, 2003 at 4:36 PM
Any mod needed to upgrade the door speakers? I have a customer with a leased Echo that wants to upgrade the door speakers. What fits without cutting a hole? 
Posted By: c.c.
Date Posted: August 16, 2003 at 1:33 PM
on mine i used kenwood 6 1/2's, but i had to make a mounting ring from 1/2 mdf. plus the front speakers are held in by rivets that have to be drilled out. lastly the speaker has a connector...that has to be cut, or an adapter has to be made (bought). these are in the kick panel. the stock size is 6 1/2 in the doors, 6x9 on the rear deck, and 4" in the dash.
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Posted By: pfitz
Date Posted: August 16, 2003 at 2:07 PM
Thanks a bunch! Now I at least know what I need. The 6X9's in the back - did you have to make a ring for them too, or did you go with the stock face plates?
Posted By: pfitz
Date Posted: August 16, 2003 at 2:09 PM
Great! Did you have to make ring spacers for the back 6X9's or did you stick with the stock faceplates?
Posted By: hobbes6981
Date Posted: August 16, 2003 at 7:02 PM
Sounddomain.com has a few examples of some Echos with ICE.
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Posted By: c.c.
Date Posted: August 21, 2003 at 1:54 PM
sorry it took me so long to reply, ive been out of commission. no, you dont need to have a mounting ring for the rear 6x9's. just make sure that when you take the off rear deck cover (its the plastic piece that has the carpet on it), that you pay special attention to the seat belt area. they break very easily!! i mounted my speakers right to the metal, but i used a foam padding between the speaker and the deck. when you pull out the old speaker, there will be just a big gaping hole in the rear deck. you will have to make new holes for the screws. just as a side note. the 6.5 kenwoods up front wont fit right with a 3/4" mdf ring. the door panel hits the tweeter. 1/2 mdf makes it fit perfect. oh, and if you want a direct bolt in for the front dash 4", i recommend Fosgate 4"...i think its like model #4022 or something. the mounting holes (all 2 of them) will fit in just right, but one corner tab will have to be folded off. most of the other 4" speakers will not have mounting holes that are "wide" enough to fit in the dash. if you got any other questions, feel free to ask. ------------- toyota echo...perfect sound named vehicle
Posted By: pfitz
Date Posted: August 21, 2003 at 4:02 PM
I mounted to the steel deck, but he didn't want the factory grills because the new grill were "too cool not to use" so there is about a 1" space between the speakers and the grill, with no way to screw the grill on seperate from the 4 mounting holes for the speakers, hence the 1" rattle space. I have the guy coming over in a few days(even though the back speakers are rattling all over the place!) to get the front speakers changed! I told him up-front, there is NO WAY I am taking the factory grills off the front, so get used to that idea and call me back. He said no problem and he'll be over on Saturday to hook them up. I still can't sell him on a new deck, he wants a killer sound with the Toyota deck, now he is talking amps!!!!!!!! This guy is a crooked installers dream, he hasn't a clue what he wants or needs, but he has all sorts of money to pay for it! I have tried my best to explain the whole concept of good sound and good equipment, which is where I am sure we will end up, but he wants to half ass everything first and waste a few hundred bucks doing it! Just like talking to the wall.
Posted By: c.c.
Date Posted: August 23, 2003 at 9:00 AM
the only thing i can think of is to maybe try a 1" mounting ring to try to take up some of the space. you would have to get really long screws though. the front grill is actually part of the door panel, and the only way to remove it is to cut it out. and if the vehicle is leased, why does he want the rear grills out anyway?
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Posted By: c.c.
Date Posted: August 23, 2003 at 9:05 AM
trying to get good loud sound from a aftermarket head unit is hard...from a factory unit, its impossible. but if you have new unit, and a good midrange-high amp, its sounds so much better.
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Posted By: pfitz
Date Posted: August 23, 2003 at 10:09 AM
I just finished installing the front Sony 61/2". Sounds better, but I think I have him convinced that he NEEDS a new deck! He is talking 2- 15" subs in the trunk along with a monster amp and a lot of custom work..........Good for me$$, I just wish he'd get a good deck! I hate to have anyone going around town showing off my work when it just isn't going to have the sound he should get. The customer is always right? I now have a new rate system - $40/hr if I do it, $60/hr if you watch and $80/hr if you help!
Posted By: c.c.
Date Posted: August 25, 2003 at 3:18 PM
i know what you mean...some people are clueless. a guy i knew about 5 years ago tried to hook up his rdio and speakers and everything. all the stuff he bought was sh*t, and when he put it in, it was all ass-backwards! after i helped him, it sounded better(put speakers in phase) but still harsh and nasty from the 20 dollar set of speakers.
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Posted By: c.c.
Date Posted: August 25, 2003 at 3:44 PM
hmm and trying to fit 2-15's in that trunk and have any space left...he must not need his trunk for anything.
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