Alpine 15'' or Phoenix Gold 15'' subwoofer
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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Topic: Alpine 15'' or Phoenix Gold 15'' subwoofer
Posted By: skyRyder
Subject: Alpine 15'' or Phoenix Gold 15'' subwoofer
Date Posted: August 16, 2003 at 1:27 AM
Hey guys, wassup? .. i am just searching for good suggestion and good opinions on CAR Audio System. I really want to buy a 15" subwoofer for meh car, i dont know what is good and i want you guys give me some idea - ALPINE SWR-5141D - PHOENIX GOLD Titanium 15/15d Which one is better to use with my ALPINE Amp T757 ? or my amp is not strong enough to run this sort of subwoofer? i want deep bass and my cousin got the 15" Phoenix gold older version, it sound pretty good with his ALPINE amp... I also has ALPINE HeadUnit top of the range as well..... which is the better for me to choose? thank alot in advance guys
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Posted By: wizzle
Date Posted: August 16, 2003 at 1:34 AM
check what the power rating is for each of the speakers and see what is closest. DON"T UNDERPOWER THE WOOFER. if you want deep bass, a 15 will definitly provide that, but the enclosure is also very important. going to ported or bandpass enclosures will ensure a lower, louder, and harder hitting bass. also, just wondering why you're limiting yourself to only two brands.
Posted By: JamesRH
Date Posted: August 16, 2003 at 9:55 PM
I like phoenix gold amps, but when comparing prices Alpine makes the better sub for your dollar
Posted By: JamesRH
Date Posted: August 16, 2003 at 9:57 PM
i have two Type R 15's running at about 300WRMS, and i hit 154.3DB...
Posted By: wizzle
Date Posted: August 17, 2003 at 2:54 AM
really???????? 154 dB's???? @ 300 watts RMS????? For 2 15 inch type r's???????? interesting..... what kind of enclosure are you using. can't be sealed, so what is the box tuned at? what kind of vehicle are you running this in?
Posted By: JamesRH
Date Posted: August 17, 2003 at 12:19 PM
hahaha...the car....a piece of crap 1981 Mercury Z7 coupe(mods include a 180 amp alternator running at 15.2 Volts and 2 extra batteries joint together with 2/0 wire(thats not 2 guage, thats two times bigger than zero guage)...the box...2 wedge shaped ported boxes located where the back seat used to be...tuned really high for 15's at about 48 Hz (dont recal exactly what)...The box dimensions are straight out of the mouth of an Alpine SPL tech, who i spoke to about best SPL tips for those subs, and i made my own calculations to use square ports instead of the sudjested tow 4" diameter ports...Please trust me when i say that I am not lying with that number, cause I have been a judge at acouple comps and I HATE amature style readings. My car was tested with everyting closed, and the mike stuck in the corned between my windshield and dash suction cupped to the window.
Posted By: skyRyder
Date Posted: August 17, 2003 at 8:12 PM
ALPINE 15" SWR-5141D and PHOENIX GOLD Titanium 15/15d about the same price, i want a good deep bass and worth of the money.... all i want is QUALITY and good bass.... can anyone here give me some advice which is good, or if someone here owned ALPINE 15" or Phoenix Gold 15" subby please tell me what you think and what is good about it? thank... Wizzle and JamesRH
Posted By: Pharaoh
Date Posted: August 17, 2003 at 8:38 PM
Well the alpines are generally viewed as more of an SQ speaker (sound quality if you didn't know :P). But I also know from experience that they can be very loud indeed. I owned 2 alpine type R 12 dvc's, and they were amazing.. loved them to death... went to a pure SPL set up now so I sold them... I'd assume the 15s are just as good.
Posted By: JamesRH
Date Posted: August 18, 2003 at 9:16 AM
I have two Alpine SWR1541's and they are definately not SQ subs, they are Really Loud, but that is all they are, they do not have great range but move about 3" so make loads of air move which is what you want if your going for SPL. Ive always thought PG subs were over prices but this years models look promising, PG had in my mind usually made a good product that costs a little too much.
Posted By: skyRyder
Date Posted: August 18, 2003 at 6:05 PM
Thank JamesRH and Pharaoh .... anyone else here has got the Phoenix Gold, i want to hear about it....... i am pretty sure that someone here has Phoenix Gold 15" subby (titanium) ... JameRH: The one i was looking at is ALPINE SWR 1521D (2 ohm) only .... and what sort of head unit have ya got ?
Posted By: wizzle
Date Posted: August 19, 2003 at 2:41 AM
JamesRH, I believe you. sounds (literally) like you did your research. Excellent job!
Posted By: skyRyder
Date Posted: August 19, 2003 at 5:24 AM
Thank Guys, So JamesRH and Wizzle have choosen PG Titanium 15" subby? wizzle which one would you choose between and ALPINE swr 1512D and PG titanium 15" subby ?..... i really need ur guy to help with everything you have heard or experienced... thank
Posted By: JamesRH
Date Posted: August 19, 2003 at 9:38 AM
I am running the Apline cda7977 head, which has no deck power, just preouts, and the sub line is pushed through a line driver i got on e-bay for $9.00 creating about 8volts RMS to the amps....I have chosen the Alpine subs if you are going for SPL...PG if going for SQ which i doubt, cause SQ guys dont usually go for 2 fifteens. :)
Posted By: skyRyder
Date Posted: August 19, 2003 at 10:29 PM
JamesRH and wizzle thank again guys.... great opinions and make me learn alot of things thru this forum..... let's me ask you again.... JamesRH and wizzle that, if you have to choose one out of these subby... which one would you go for?... ALPINE SWR1521D or the PG titanium 15" ?... i just called up the alpine store, they give me a very very good deal on the 15" ... but i still have time to think and do my homework on researching this stuff here and there.... therefore i need more information and what is the good choice? thank alot buddies
Posted By: wizzle
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 1:25 AM
i'm with JamesRH. In just about every application that I've heard, and honestly, none ever side by side, and way more alpine than pg subs, alpine will take the cake. Sorry if i asked this already, but what is your preferred type of music? what mid and highs are you going to use? gonna stay with alpine? that will definitly make JamesRH happy : ), but would also be a very good choice.
Posted By: skyRyder
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 1:38 AM
lol.... good that you reply me so fast!... well i listen to alot of pop songs and RNB or sometime slow songs too.... i have heard the PG 15" play with all the music i like, it great sound and very nice bass.... i check prices b4, PG slidely cheaper than ALPINE... come on guys give me some good opinion and stuffs.... thank again buddies
Posted By: wizzle
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 2:06 AM
stick with alpine. it is probally more than coincidence that i have heard way more alpine than pg. but, your ear is the determining factor, not mine. have you heard the alpines in a vehicle, or just in a demo room?
Posted By: skyRyder
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 6:26 PM
yeah i heard the alpine but 12" though...... like i said b4 bro... i have heard and almost every week PG 15" (old model) in my cousin car... but his brother got the 12" ALPINE VR..... that why i ask people here, is there anyone has ALPINE SWR1521D in their trunk? and what do they like about it?.... PG pretty good but rare in Australia... australia is damn slow with the technologies and other productions, ... outrages mate!!!!  surely u can find only afew alpine products (good quality) on ebay.com.au...... but if hop on ebay.com (US site) u will flick until ur eyes hurt.... so yeah... thank wizzle I also just got a really good deal from one of our special cousin's friend who own the alpine shop... i called 3 different alpine store, they all cant give a damn about dropping a dollar, so this sales manager will give me 25% off from RRP
Posted By: remedyking
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 6:47 PM
why only the 2 subs. try the mmats jug 15. in the right enclosure 1 is better than 2 of the PG or alpine.
Posted By: skyRyder
Date Posted: August 20, 2003 at 8:39 PM
remedyking.... can you give more info about ur mmats jug 15 plz..... model number, or URL site will be appreciated..... pretty sure there are some good stuff out there
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