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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=17941
Printed Date: July 22, 2025 at 11:22 AM


Topic: Amp power wire

Posted By: jepherz
Subject: Amp power wire
Date Posted: August 22, 2003 at 9:20 AM

I have a rockford punch 360 driving a 12 sub and I am putting it a USAcoustics 85x 4 watt amp for the speakers. I have 8 guage power wire running into the back of my car and am wondering if 8 guage will be enough. Also, how can i tell what size fuse to be using? I will have one at the battery and one on each connection in the distribution box.
Thanks again,
Jepherz

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Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: August 22, 2003 at 9:30 AM
You have 700 watts total, I would suggest that you use a 4 gauge cable however you can get away with using an 8 gauge cable https://www.the12volt.com/info/recwirsz.asp As far as the fuse goes 700 watts will draw approximately 55 amps.




Posted By: jepherz
Date Posted: August 22, 2003 at 3:59 PM
Doesn't it say in one of those charts that 700 watts would draw over 100 amps?
just checking


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"Screw nitrous, I'd rather be blown."




Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: August 22, 2003 at 9:22 PM
go at least 4awg if not 1/0 awg.

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Big Dave




Posted By: eurotek
Date Posted: August 23, 2003 at 7:42 PM

no, 700 watts would not draw over 100 amps..

at 12.8 volts it would take about 54.6875 amps like bberman said.

i agree that 4 ga is more suitable, as the 8 ga may cause your amps to run a bit warmer than you would want them too, depending of course, how much actual continuous current you would be drawing





Posted By: ituneyou
Date Posted: August 23, 2003 at 10:29 PM

if you want to get away cheap, just add another 8gauge power wire for the amp you're adding and remember to fuse it at the battery and a 50 amp fuse should be enough for each amp.

                                                               steve



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Posted By: skahide
Date Posted: September 22, 2003 at 10:41 PM
I have a 2400W Legacy amp and wasnt sure what gauge wire i needed. It'll be pushing 2    15' subs.  I was told by a friend that if i got an extension cord and pulled one of the 3 wires out i could use it as a amp power wire. He says because it is made to hold AC current it will be able to hold the 2400W from the battery to the amp.  Is this true?   If not what do i need to do so that im getting all the needed power to the amp?




Posted By: italnpimp59
Date Posted: September 22, 2003 at 10:52 PM
ok first of all....do not use an extension cord as a power cable!  that is ridiculous...matter of fact...smack your friend for me!  second of all....that amp will not truly put out 2400 watts.   but i would recommend 4gauge wire.  and third of all, there is not 2400 watts going from the battery to the amp...the watts are going from the amp to the subs!!!  voltage and amperes of current go from the battery to the amp!

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Posted By: skahide
Date Posted: September 22, 2003 at 11:29 PM
I live out in the country so the closest thing i have for car audio is Wal Mart. So i need to get the most heavy duty amp set they have? And what gauge wire do i need to go from the amp to the speakers?  These speakers have two sets of wire connectors, one set on each side. What does that do for me?   Ive never had any speakers over a 12' and have never seen speakers with two sets of wire connectors.




Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 1:12 AM

speedwayaudio1 wrote:

go at least 4awg if not 1/0 awg.

1/0ga for his set up would be rediculious. 2 ga wire for that set up would just be wasting money.



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Posted By: flatulatta
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 8:29 PM
u have a DVC sub woofer which means it has 2 voice coils and depending on the rms of ur sub 1/2 that and thats how many watts each coil will take there are actually 3 ways of wireing these as ive heard u can run them parrallel/series or if u got some money or something u could buy 2 amps and run each to each coil one of my friends does the last one and his s**t is hard so and u can either goto the jl audio site or the audio bahn site to see how each of the other 2 setups would make ur subs react and it all depends on what kinda they are if they are 2 or 4 ohm DVC this is just from wut ive learned in the past 2mnths so ne1 else care to expand or correct me go for it




Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 8:34 PM

flatulatta wrote:

u have a DVC sub woofer which means it has 2 voice coils and depending on the rms of ur sub 1/2 that and thats how many watts each coil will take there are actually 3 ways of wireing these as ive heard u can run them parrallel/series or if u got some money or something u could buy 2 amps and run each to each coil one of my friends does the last one and his s**t is hard so and u can either goto the jl audio site or the audio bahn site to see how each of the other 2 setups would make ur subs react and it all depends on what kinda they are if they are 2 or 4 ohm DVC this is just from wut ive learned in the past 2mnths so ne1 else care to expand or correct me go for it

that third setup you recomended is discouraged by all companies i believe it sends a seperate signal to the coils and if somethings disrupts one of the signals the voice coils are out of sync and basically destroy each other



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Posted By: flatulatta
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 8:40 PM

yea but im assuming the way u could do it if it will work is to hook 1 rca up to each ie red 2 1 amp and white 2 the other ill ask my friend how he does it tom cuz he hooks all of his stuff like that his bro did it for him and he installs stuff all the time





Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 8:56 PM

https://jlaudio.com/tutorials/dvc/diffsignals.html

there is jl's dislike for the set up



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Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 9:50 PM
Skahid 1st off on the extension cord that is a fire waiting to happen, I hope your buddy has good insurance. I would suggest that you get a 4 gauge amp kit from knukonceptz https://www.knukonceptz.com/detail.asp?product_id=KOLAK4 you won’t find a better quality kit, and the price is reasonable. As far as the DVC goes the main advantage to a DVC (dual voice coil) over a SVC (single voice coil) is the DVC gives you more wiring flexibility. JL has a good tutorial on DVC that you should read https://jlaudio.com/tutorials/dvc/index.html . If you tell me the make and model of both your subs and your amp, I will tell you how to wire the subs to the amp for optimal performance. Also flatulatta it is incorrect to wire the amps and sub that way. By doing that you will damage your sub. 




Posted By: flatulatta
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 9:56 PM
well ma friends done it to his i wouldnt to mine but ive heard of it b4 and he said thats the only way he wires his and they are loud




Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 10:04 PM

scorche 4 gauge kit from walmart. cheap and its pretty good.

I got the dual amp set up, so its 4 guage to 8 guage. but for like 30$ you get everythin you need.



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Posted By: skahide
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 10:56 PM

Ok here is the set up:

Legacy Red Series 2   ,   1200Wx2,    Model# LA2070

And 2  Volfenhag 15" DVC Subs,  1200W Max, 4 ohm + 4ohm,  Model #ZX-4715DVX

Im putting it in a 2001 Ford Escape, Im going to build the box tomorrow and needed some advice. I'll read the above info tonight about DVC and hopefully ill understand it more.  Thanx Guys





Posted By: ituneyou
Date Posted: September 24, 2003 at 9:26 AM

Assuming the Legacy amp  can be bridged, and 2400 watts seems a little much, maybe if struck by lightning. The subs are dual 4 ohm, why not series parallel them and bridge the amp that way the amp will see a 4 ohm load and should not shut down.

Let me know if you need help on wiring the subs.

                                    goodluck  steve



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Posted By: ituneyou
Date Posted: September 24, 2003 at 9:29 AM
And  if you're bridging the amp make sure the box is a single chamber.

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A man has got to know his limitations




Posted By: skahide
Date Posted: September 24, 2003 at 9:34 AM
Well i figured that since im using 2 subs and the amp is 2 channel ill just run one channel to a sub.   But then again i know almost nothing about DVC.  What would you do if you were me?  I dont care if it is a two chamber box or one.  Just what ever is best is what i want to do. If you would please draw a diagram id appreciate it.  thanx




Posted By: bberman1
Date Posted: September 24, 2003 at 9:41 AM

You have 2 ways you can wire the subs to the amps, either way you will get the same power and performance. 1st way and probably easiest, wire each sub in parallel to its own channel on the amp (top diagram). So you will have to do this twice once to hook up one sub to a channel on the amp and then again to hook up the other  https://www.audiobahninc.com/tech/wiring/parallel_parallel_dual_4.pdf

2nd way and a little more complicated, wire your subs in Series-Parallel and then bridge them to one channel on the amp (2nd diagram down) https://www.audiobahninc.com/tech/wiring/parallel_series_dual_4_ohm.pdf Now your amp should have a diagram on it which will show you a diagram of how to wire the bridge. But normally it will look something like my drawing below. So since you wired your subs together you should have 1 main cable, you will hook that cables + to the plus on the amps bridge and you will hook up the - to - on the bridge 

These are your speaker terminals
+   -                    +  - 

+____bridged ___  -






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