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12 or 15?

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Topic: 12 or 15?

Posted By: pureRF
Subject: 12 or 15?
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 12:53 PM

Im putting an eclipse aluminum in my car and love bass, i listen to rap. So would i be able to tell the diff from the 15 or 12?

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Posted By: djfearny2
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 1:20 PM
yes
simple what is going to create more air displacement. more force or less force. bigger or smaller.

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Posted By: AudioAdrenaline
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 2:01 PM

A 12 will hit cleaner than a 15, but the 15 will put out higher spl and generally hit lower.  If you are a fanatic for sound quality, stick with the 12.  If you wanna rock people from blocks away, go with the 15.  Considering you are using an Eclipse sub, the sound from the 15 is still going to be very clean.  Most of the installs that I have done, where the customer listens to Rap I have suggested 15's and they have always been happy.  I've done many installs with 1 well powered 15 and in a good box that just straight up scared people.





Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 6:41 PM
audio arden.-what kinda boxes and what was the cuft? im doing a fiberglass one

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Posted By: AudioAdrenaline
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 6:57 PM

Hmmmm....It just depended on the sub.  One was an alpine type r 15 in 1.5 cuft sealed 3/4 mdf, another was a kicker comp in 3 cuft sealed.  the last was a budget install in a dodge neon that was a fosgate "Z" in 2.25 sealed.  One of the loudest ones was 2 jl 15w6s in 1.5 cuft each sealed in a hatchback.  One of the deepest hitting setups was 2 15" audiobahn excursions in 2 cuft each running at 1 ohm off the a1200 audiobahn class d amp.  Not the loudest, but it went low and didn't get to messy doin it.  I know none of these were really SPL setups, but I've always been partial to loud AND clean.





Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 7:05 PM

Ever done a MQ quart system? anyone?



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Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 8:29 PM
audio what would your suggestion be on a 15 eclipse alum in a sealed?

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dream it, build it, fiberglass it




Posted By: fuseblower
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 9:24 PM

In my opinion 15's are ok but sometimes sound like they are dragging.  12's in the right box can really move somethings.  Also, depending on the car the size of the subs makes a difference because subs move air.  The smaller the car the less are there is to move so the smaller the sub can be. 





Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: September 12, 2003 at 10:21 PM
I have a 4runner

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Posted By: AudioAdrenaline
Date Posted: September 13, 2003 at 4:05 PM
To be honest Pure, I've never worked with Eclipse subs I've heard them, but never installed them, so I wouldn't have any idea.  With most boxes, I look up the recommended sealed box size, built it to those specs, and try it out.  If it's not quite deep enough, I'll build one .5 cuft over ant try again.  In most instances I've found the factory specs to be pretty good.  In the open cabin of your 4 runner, that sub is gonna sound nice.




Posted By: DjRDifacs
Date Posted: September 14, 2003 at 12:37 PM
PureRF,

If you have room for two 15's, then you'd have room for three 10's in a ported enclosure. Three 10's will really hit the low f3's.




Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: September 14, 2003 at 5:15 PM
I am not putting 2 of anything im putting one. Audio- with the building a box then checking it and all sounds good but i cant really do that because the box will be a glass box. If anyone has the specs for an eclipse aluminum 15 they would be great to have. Would you guys suggest a 1 farad cap too?

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dream it, build it, fiberglass it




Posted By: AudioAdrenaline
Date Posted: September 14, 2003 at 7:17 PM
I thought about the 'glass box issue, you can build the box out of mdf, then use the cuft measurements to built it around.  What model of Eclipse are you putting in?




Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: September 17, 2003 at 11:56 AM
a 15 inch alum. and i need to do it all glass because its molding a hard to mold thing.

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