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Topic: purchase 10’s or 12’s

Posted By: Ketel22
Subject: purchase 10’s or 12’s
Date Posted: October 26, 2003 at 9:13 PM

i currently own two sets of subs, one set is with me in hawaii, the kappa perfects 12.1 and the other set is in my truck in md, the apline R10's

i just want to know what you all think about the brands, i plan to purchase the corrisponding brand in the different size, kappa perfect 10.1 to match the 12.1's and the Alpine R12's to match the R10's but i only want to keep one brand which do you suggest i keep and which should i sell off to friends?



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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 8:09 AM
it's what you like. not us. opinions are like a$$ holes we all got one. I like the kappa's, but some one else will swear that i'm full of $*it and don't know what i'm talking about. so get the one's you like and think are the best. after all you are the one who got to listen to them.

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Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 7:11 PM

i want what will hit the highest spl but is capable of everyday listenin



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Posted By: nedgeworth
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 7:25 PM
Definitely go for the 12 inch perfects then!




Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 7:40 PM
you think a set of perfects 2 10's and 2 12's will have higher spl than 2 alpine R10's and 2 alpine R12's?

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Posted By: nedgeworth
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 8:31 PM
Well i think you should stick to one size sub as well. You'll run into a lot of cancelation problems. BUt if you've got the time to tinker with boxes and crossover frequencies it would be a nice setup! So i would suggest either going with all 12's or all 10's.




Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 8:40 PM
im going to use the mixed subs for sound quality reasons. but which brand is louder is all i really want to find out.

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Posted By: nedgeworth
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 8:53 PM
Well i would say alpine out of the 2. Although they are very closely matched. But if your looking for more SQ them go for the Perfects. If your going for sound quality you don't really just want your subs to go loud they have to be crisp.

SQ = Infinity
SPL = Alpine

(when comparing the two. i'm sure other ppl have different opinions though)




Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: October 27, 2003 at 9:06 PM

just an after thought, my friend where my truck is purchased a new setup, two kappa perfect 12.1d's and a mtx  amp 421d, and i will have my alpine R10's and im taking my rockford power 1000a2 back with me, which set up do you guys/gals think will win a comp. the kappas will be in the truck of a 00 neon and the alpines are in an 85 s10



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Posted By: speedwayaudio1
Date Posted: October 28, 2003 at 7:40 AM
rf 1000a2 should power any set up nicely.

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Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: October 28, 2003 at 7:54 PM
has any body heard the kappa perfects 12.1 compared to the alpine r10s? the kappas will be running about 240wrms and the alpines about 750wrms.

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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 28, 2003 at 8:48 PM

i have never heard  the kappas, but i do know that alpine's slam and sound good doing it.  My co worker has 2 R-10s in a ported box tuned to 30hz i believe, with a alpine mrd-m1000 running them in a mazda b2200 extended cab.  belive it or not he can hit 145 db.  He broke our mic in the process, now i can't test my 3 R-12"s with 3 mrd-m500'sposted_image.

Now for the sound quality, our team car has 2 R-15's, and they are unbelievably crisp for 15's, they sound like 12"s, but with the output of 15's.  And the 12's sound like 10's, and so on.  but then again it really depends on the box.

I also like the voice coil options of the R-series subs, you can get dual 2 ohm or dual 4 ohm.  if your amp is stable to 1 ohm, then go for 2 swr-1241d's.





Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: October 28, 2003 at 11:53 PM
alpine guy, are you a dealer? if so i guess if not also. i currently have the dvc 4ohm R10's what else would you reccomend to go along with them?

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Posted By: superstreet786
Date Posted: October 29, 2003 at 12:13 AM
I would suggest the Alpine's... ive always heard those hit really hard




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 29, 2003 at 1:45 PM
"ketel22", i am an installer at a alpine dealer so i definately stand by the products.  And what do you mean by what do i reccomend to go along with them?? amps? or speakers? or box?  If your talking amps, i would go for 2 mrd-m500's.  Since each sub will go down to 2 ohm, it would be perfect for the mrd-m500 since it is 2 ohm stable and puts out 500 wrms at 14.4v, and 900 watts peak.  So you definataly will be able to get your 10's to pound like heck and still feed them clean power all the way to the end.




Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: October 29, 2003 at 6:13 PM
no i already have an amp, i was wondering what size subs you would suggest to go along with them to get the low frequencies

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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: October 29, 2003 at 6:52 PM
i would go with the R-12's, im very impressed with there tightness, and ability to go very low.  Cut the crossover at about 70-75 hz i found that to be best, the avergage 80hz just buzzes to much.




Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: October 29, 2003 at 7:00 PM
what crossover's would you suggest if i wanted to get the "12's" (im thinking about 15's) from about 60hz and below then my 10 between about 85hz to 61hz?

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