building a sub box
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Topic: building a sub box
Posted By: medicmike
Subject: building a sub box
Date Posted: January 30, 2004 at 11:16 PM
so i'm kinda new at this but how do i calculate how big of a box i need for any given sub woofer ?
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Posted By: bfog99
Date Posted: January 30, 2004 at 11:35 PM
the sub manufacturers give a recommended volume for given type of box (sealed vs. ported). what type of sub are you talking about? what type of box?
Posted By: Clean Install
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 12:50 AM
multiple the height, by the width, by the depth then take the width of the board lets say .5 inchs thick take that times 2 which in this case it would equal 1 inch (1/2 in. board on each side would add up to 1inch) so you could then subtract that from your measurements then multiple them togther a 12x12x12 box would not be 1cubic foot it would be 1.5cubic feet so it would not be 12by12by12 it would be 11by11by11 hope thats not confusing...also there is a volume caluclator on this site for your different shapes  just refer to the manufactors recommened size... Lets us now what type of sub/ and box you want to know about and we can then help you.... good luck ------------- If we learn from each success and
each failure, then we can improve ourselves
Posted By: BaddestBanshee
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 12:50 AM
go to kickers website or check this site out for a volume calculator. kicker can tell you how they recommend building a general box. you need the specs for your subs though.
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Posted By: medicmike
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 2:23 AM
well im not sure what im wanting to build i dont know a lot about subs i just want some nice clean bass is there any perks to bandpass or sealed or ported and what size of sub is gonna give me some nice clean loud bass
Posted By: Clean Install
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 2:28 AM
well there are many choice out there thats for sure....depending alot on what you like to listen too...I feel that a ported box will be louder than a sealed...I like a sealed box, I have two 12inch pioneer preimeers in a sealed box and I like them....do you have any thoughts on what type of sub you want...? ------------- If we learn from each success and
each failure, then we can improve ourselves
Posted By: Clean Install
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 2:31 AM
what type of vehicle is this for by the way?
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each failure, then we can improve ourselves
Posted By: medicmike
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 2:34 AM
well i was thinking two pioneer premium 10's in a band pass but i dont know alot about it i dont need to blow the windows out of my ride i just want some nice clean bass
Posted By: Clean Install
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 2:42 AM
do you have the 10s, must be a car or extened cab,or a suv ------------- If we learn from each success and
each failure, then we can improve ourselves
Posted By: medicmike
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 2:44 AM
ya i have a nissan pathfinder have you evertryed band pass i hear alot about them
Posted By: Clean Install
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 2:50 AM
Well yes I have, I did not listen to them much but from what I remember they sounded pretty good....I had a old lanzar 12 in a sealed box / in a sort of bandpass setup just a single 12 possible a 10 now that I think about it...just a box with a plexi glass front....sound real good in my car and the amp I had on it was not real big either... plus it was in the trunk... I have heard and read alot about them good and bad... Im just not sure how they would sound ------------- If we learn from each success and
each failure, then we can improve ourselves
Posted By: medicmike
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 4:12 PM
well i guess i'll just have to try it and, see everything i hear is that bandpass gives you good clean bass thanks everyone who has helped me with my questions.
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: January 31, 2004 at 7:54 PM
No offence intended, but why would you try something that you know little about? Bandpass is a real quick way to start blowing up speakers, sure the box looks cool but unless properly done, the results are less than desireable. If the bandpass box is properly constructed or for a given response type or vehicle type, then that is great but it is a very careful calculation to get the proper desired results. A bandpass box means that it is naturally designed to give loud response in a given frequency range, usually around 70hz, the loudest point in the vehicle (usually). It naturally gets rid of sound above and below this tuning frequency, thus bottom end extension is compromised. It does however give an enormous emount of output in the given frequency range. This is a complex box to construct and dangerous to most subs. A ported enclosure usually plays to a good volume level, quite high actually and plays to a given tuning frequency, usually around 1 octave lower than most bandpass boxes, thus bottem end extension is better, read more sound and lower levels. It is a fairly easy box to construct if the subs will play in this type of box. A sealed box is a great choice for anyone but the experienced or task specific user. You can be out by a country mile on the box size and still get good or even amaxing results. The smaller the box is the "punchier" the bass gets, the bigger the box is, the deeper the response gets, just add more power for the "punch" to return. (generally speaking) This is a simple box to construct and one of the safest for subs to play in. A sub need a given amount of air space to play in for specific types of boxes. It is a fairly simple math equation to figure this out. A sub takes up airspace in the box, thus it needs to be added to the enclosure size. The same goes for a port. Remeber to add these to your calculations. Most people will send you to a volume calculator or box program for this, no worries it will do the math for you, except for the displacement of the sub and port, so remember that. Remeber as well that the recommendations are internal volume so you must add length, height, width for the materials used Here is the math should you want to start learning l x w x h = cubic inches 12" x 12" x 12" = 1728 cu.in = 1 cu.ft This is your constant. Any combination of the numbers above will give you the airspace that you need. Make sure that you have adequate height / width / length in the vehicle, next make sure you have the mounting depth of the sub. You can't put a 6" deep sub in a box that can only be 4" deep. Volume of a port (if I remeber right) 1/2 x pie x radius^2 = displacement of port, add to box. Rule of thumb for sub (unless stated) .10 cu.ft for a 10" and .12 for a 12" - add to volume. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: medicmike
Date Posted: February 01, 2004 at 2:45 AM
thanks for the lesson in sub boxes I think you're right i better just stick to sealrd or ported boxes but how do you know what size of port to put in to a box i mean diameter and length.one other thing where in the sub box is the best place to put them? thanks again for the info
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