which would be louder?
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Topic: which would be louder?
Posted By: kure
Subject: which would be louder?
Date Posted: February 02, 2004 at 5:07 PM
which would be louder, two 12" infinti kappa DVC subs 300 rms in a bandpass OR Two L5 10" ( also gettin 300rms) in a sealed box made for them\ i'm willing to sacrifice a LITTLE SQ for SPl i like a mix.. i dont listen to rock mainly rap < name=userpass =https://www.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/board-post.pl method=post>< = value=4/11258 name=HTTP_REFERER> < = value=1 name=preview> >
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Posted By: xTimx
Date Posted: February 02, 2004 at 5:24 PM
well 10's have a punchier sound to it as for the 12's have that certain low end sound to it. since you are listening to rap and such i would go with the 2 12's with a ported box. if you like you could go with a 15 in a sealed box too that would still produce bass and you would still have your sq in there too. just play around with stuff at the store where your buying them at (if your even buying them from a store)
Posted By: kure
Date Posted: February 02, 2004 at 7:38 PM
thankz, but what about the bandpass i want the bass to travel
Posted By: jpranwez
Date Posted: February 02, 2004 at 9:47 PM
i've been told banpass is basically for show and has no sound value. Personally I would go with 2 twelves over one fifteen any day. I would probably go with the l5 if I were you. Do you have any other options or does it have to be one of these pairs.
Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: February 02, 2004 at 10:09 PM
In my opinion the l5's would be louder. And bandpass boxes suck to me. I'd rather have a sealed or ported box. On a bandpass box there are plenty of chances of air leaking.
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Posted By: jpranwez
Date Posted: February 02, 2004 at 10:30 PM
If your talking two 15's they'll be louder and deeper but a little bit looser. But to 12's are louder and tighter than 1 fifteen as long as long as your talking comparable speakers.
Posted By: kure
Date Posted: February 02, 2004 at 10:42 PM
here are all the options two 12" infinti kappa DVC subs 300 rms each in a bandpass or Two L5 10" ( also gettin 300rms each) in a sealed box made for them\ or two apline type r 12" in bandpass(300rms each) or two fosgate HE2 ( also gettin 300rms each) in a bandpass or ONE L5 15" in a seald box gettin 600rms i want a mix with SPl an good sound quality
Posted By: kure
Date Posted: February 02, 2004 at 10:45 PM
and i'll be using a JBL 600.1 amp to push any one of the above systems and have anyone here have experience with any of these system setups
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 11:22 AM
Don't go bandpss unless the box is Specifically built for the Specific sub. You can't just go out and buy a band pass box, and throw in a sub, , ,thats how you get explosions. I know for shure alpine dosn't make the Type-R in a bandpas box, so im guessing your not looking at specifically built box's. I can pretty much guarantee your system will sound like ass if you go with a generic box. Go ported or sealed. I have played with 2 Type-R 12's in ported enclosures tuned to 25hz and they were just obnoxiously loud with 150 w rms each. I have 3 R 12's, in 1.25 qubes sealed each, running 1500wrms total, i have one of the cheepest set ups in town, and i got 2nd at the last spl comp, 1st was 8 planet audios with 20 000 watts. beat me by 6 db
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 2:25 PM
And to thoroughly confuse the issure even more, 1 Eclipse aluminum 12 in a 1.25 cu.ft sealed enclosure, 2 if you can afford them. 1 is usually more than enough to embarass what is listed above. Pretty sure that bberman1 will agree.
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Posted By: kure
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 2:28 PM
i would be building a bandpass to the speaker specs
Posted By: kure
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 2:39 PM
and another quaestion is the sound quality in the L5 much better than the L7's or about the same
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 2:43 PM
Here is a question for you, no offence intended either, hope you don't take it that way. Why do you want to go bandpass and do you know what it means? ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: jpranwez
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 4:24 PM
I was curious about that. Aren't there only a few speakers designed for bandpass setups. I
Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 4:37 PM
If your going to spend about $200-$300 i would get (1) 12w6v2 in a vented box, thats a nice set up, i have seen people achieve mid 140's using one at full power
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Posted By: kure
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 4:38 PM
from what ive heard its louder an the bass travels further ( with little loss of sound quality if built right) , and i'll be usin a coustic or kicker 3 way eleltronic crossover i would go for seald for the soudnquality but the bass it not loud enough an doesnt travel thats i wanna kno how good would the L5 10" play in a seald enclosure an will it play like round 12's in a bandpass and the infinity's that i am lookin at 12" DVC kappa's work well in a bandpass enclosure thats what infinity says
Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 8:03 PM
What do you mean "the bass dosnt travel". Unless you have a 12" sub at the back of a school bus I dont think you should have a problem with the bass as you call it "traveling". If you have a bandpass box it makes your subs super effecient (very sensitive) and they usually move alot of air because of all the ports on them. ohh yeah ,they are usually one of the loudest enclosures if built properly. My friend has a bandpass box in his jeep and since he listens to rap it dosnt sound that bad(while also providing secondary air conditioning) but I really prefer a sealed or ported over a bandpass. And dont go with Kciker or Infinity. Look at JL's W6v2 12" or 10" sub. They would have way better SQ while still playing loud even in a sealed box.
Posted By: geepherder
Date Posted: February 03, 2004 at 10:00 PM
Bandpass boxes are the most efficient, but also enormous. They are nowhere near as forgiving when it comes to size as say, a sealed box. The roll off is much faster than with a sealed or ported box, meaning not near as flat a response even in the car. You must keep this in mind when constructing, so you can have the peaky punch right where you want it- if you choose to go this route. I'd suggest a vented enclosure for you. Those Infinitys sound better to my ears than the Kickers do. Either way, those bad boys'll get down.
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