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Kole Audio Reviews!

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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Printed Date: May 03, 2024 at 8:33 AM


Topic: Kole Audio Reviews!

Posted By: SpankyJohnson
Subject: Kole Audio Reviews!
Date Posted: February 07, 2004 at 10:57 AM

Hey folks I need to know if kole audio is any good or are they just crap? I dont have 280-450 to spend on a 4 channel amp or 2 ch amp.

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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: February 07, 2004 at 4:33 PM
Never heard of Kole.  If you're on a budget, my first suggestion for low-cost decent quality is any amp from US Acoustics.




Posted By: fatdaddyjoe
Date Posted: February 07, 2004 at 10:58 PM
had a kole 1.5 farad cap that worked good. but hey a cap is a cap...........try california profile for the price they are decent....what are you running with these amps??

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Posted By: SOUND PRESSURE
Date Posted: February 08, 2004 at 12:41 AM
If I am not mistaken I think that Kole audio is made by Power Acoustic which I had many moons ago to run 2 12's, then it was switched to run mid's and highs and back to one 12 in a friends car. It's not bad for the money if you are on a budget. California amps are good as well which a friend has 2 profile series and one california series and it sounds pretty decent.

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Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: February 08, 2004 at 1:57 PM
I have a few friends that are into competitions. They all are hitting over 150dbs using Kole audio Amps. They havent hand any problems with them at all. They look nice too. :)

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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: February 08, 2004 at 7:22 PM
I've never heard of "Kole" before. I've heard of "Kove" I hear Kove is pretty good, but I haven't heard of Kole so I wouldn't know.

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Posted By: the Finn
Date Posted: February 08, 2004 at 7:29 PM
What kind of power do you need? There are a lot of good 4 channel amps on the 300-400 watt total power range for right around 200 bucks. RF, MTX, even JL e-series if you get a b-stock. Just some other ideas.

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~Cory
Car Concepts SLC
Alpine F#1Status Certified




Posted By: SpankyJohnson
Date Posted: February 08, 2004 at 11:05 PM

the Finn wrote:

What kind of power do you need? There are a lot of good 4 channel amps on the 300-400 watt total power range for right around 200 bucks. RF, MTX, even JL e-series if you get a b-stock. Just some other ideas.

My ideal system will be either two component system 6.5 MB quartz or Alpine type-R 6.5 (80-125rms)
Two kicker solobaric L7 8" subwoofers ported (450rms each)
ALpine CDA-7995 head unit

NEED:

one 4 ch amp for components and one for Subwoofers.
But I think in a ported box I dont need as much rms wattage. so I guess about 300w rms each. I guess



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Posted By: the Finn
Date Posted: February 09, 2004 at 1:19 AM

The MTX T404 is a great little amp for the money (220 MAP). It makes 50 wrms x 4 @ 4 ohms. MTX has really improved their production techniques in the last few years. I have sold both MTX and Rockford for years, and right now I would have to say MTX is building just as good, if not a little better,  an amp than Rockford is(*gasp*). At least for the money.

Also JL just released a grip of b-stock e4300 amps that sound killer for about that same price. Find a JL dealer in your area and see if you can score one of those. They have the same warranty as a-stock amps, they usually have cosmetic defects only.

Either of these would make your components sing. Other amps mentioned on this thread would work well, too. Check a couple out, see if you can hear them in action and get the one tht most appeals to you.

A ported box is more efficient, yes, but that only means it takes less power to get the same output as a comparable sealed box, and even then only around it's tuned frequency. By running the same amount of power to a vented box as you would a sealed, then, you would get a large increase in output for no more input than you would have given the sealed box. It's like free bass! (except that you paid for it, just got a good deal *lol*)

I say port those Kickers and nail them with as much power as you can afford. As long as you filter the bass below the tuned frequency of the box, they will handle all the rms power a sealed box will.

last thing, I promise. If you like the sound of Quart, check out the JL Evolution. I sell both and I have to say the JL sounds better for the money. Look at the VR series. Similar money to the Quart Reference and Alpine Type R, but much smoother response. Listen to them all, see what you like. That's just my suggestion.



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~Cory
Car Concepts SLC
Alpine F#1Status Certified




Posted By: spl_enterprise
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 9:35 AM
kole audio is another one of those new brands. they are alright just overpriced, and no power acoustik doesnt make kole. they make spl and farenhiet. peace.

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Pete - SPL Enterprise Inc.




Posted By: fatdaddyjoe
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 11:21 AM
i had the icbm774 amp that pushed reall nice for the price

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THE LOUDER THE BETTER !!!!!!
CAN YOU FEEL IT ?????




Posted By: SOUND PRESSURE
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 4:48 PM
spl_enterprise wrote:

kole audio is another one of those new brands. they are alright just overpriced, and no power acoustik doesnt make kole. they make spl and farenhiet. peace.


Sorry SPL you are mistaken. Kole audio is made by Power Acoustik as I mentioned earlier in the tread. I have the book in front of me and I asked my wholesale dealer as well. Just to clarify thanks.

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Sound Pressure

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Posted By: HamiltonAudio
Date Posted: February 13, 2004 at 8:34 PM

the Finn wrote:

I say port those Kickers and nail them with as much power as you can afford. As long as you filter the bass below the tuned frequency of the box, they will handle all the rms power a sealed box will.


Not sure that I entirely agree.  what ur saying is to run a subsonic filter below port tuning requency, right?  As long as you filter below port tuning frequency, right?  yipes!  Did I not read these were 8" L7's?  if so, the port tuning frequency will be quite high (prolly in the high 40's or low 50's).  Assuming this is the case, the customer will be missing the bottom two octaves of the subbase region  (not that 8's have appreciable output in that range anyway, but still...its missing!!!!!)

The subsonic filter is a safety for a vented box, and not much more.  We know that as the sub plays closer to tuning freq, the drivers movement becomes less and less.  Theoretically, the driver will almost not move at tuning freq.  BUT...as we dip below port tuning, the sub begins to move wildly, unloading and behaving as if its not in a box at all.....I would suggest that if you can put big power on them, a medium sealed box (which is quite small for that driver) would be much better. 

0.02





Posted By: spl_enterprise
Date Posted: February 14, 2004 at 10:44 PM

good for you. they make spl and farenheit. you want a cookie? or a medal for that? whos your wholesale dealer? the wholesale house?



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Pete - SPL Enterprise Inc.




Posted By: SOUND PRESSURE
Date Posted: February 15, 2004 at 2:09 AM
No need to get upset there spl. I'm not mad at you I am simply trying to help provide the correct info. Everyone makes mistakes. It's ok!

Wholesale House is one of the very few that I do have why would you like there number? Who do you have?

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Sound Pressure

You know you have the right amount of pressure when your eyes start to water! Now you've got Juice!




Posted By: the Finn
Date Posted: February 15, 2004 at 1:47 PM

HamiltonAudio wrote:

Not sure that I entirely agree.  what ur saying is to run a subsonic filter below port tuning requency, right?  As long as you filter below port tuning frequency, right?  yipes!  Did I not read these were 8" L7's?  if so, the port tuning frequency will be quite high (prolly in the high 40's or low 50's).  Assuming this is the case, the customer will be missing the bottom two octaves of the subbase region  (not that 8's have appreciable output in that range anyway, but still...its missing!!!!!)

This is a good point to bring up, and thank you for that. And I do not disagree with what you are saying, but I think it's important to discuss what exactly will be missing, as I think assuming high 40's to low 50's is a little extreme.

Kicker indicates in the owner's manual for the 8" L7 that a 25 Hz subsonic filter will give a ported box the same RMS power handling as the sealed box would. This filter would only cut off the lowest part of the lowest audible octave (the bottom 5 Hz, assuming a 20 to 20k frequency spread), which in the vast majority of cases will not be missed at all. The Fs of the speaker is 38 Hz; I would actually have filtered it at 30 or 32 in a vented box and still you would have all but some very low harmonic information (now missing only the the last 10 to 12 Hz), but Kicker indicates different, so I'd say go with that. My point is just that using the numbers, it looks like a vented box would perform just as well as a sealed box except at the lowest (30 Hz and down appx.) frequencies, which in my experience you will not miss at all.

The subsonic filter is just a safety, you are absolutely right, and it does cut out some information. These ideas always are just that - ideas. Ultimately you have to look at the program material that the listener intends to use, and how abusive they will be. If you listen to a lot of synthesized bass, or electronica/ techno, you may find that you are hanging around below the tuned frequency of the box, and yes you might miss the tones in that case. But as long as I have been designing and building boxes, I have only run in to that a couple of times.

I stand by my idea to port those subs as long as you can properly control them (All hail the mighty subsonic filter!!!). But more importantly, go listen to the difference between ported and sealed before you make the final decision which to make. You have to use the box, after all, all we can do is advise you based on our own experience. I just have my opinions and a few meager facts to back them up.



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~Cory
Car Concepts SLC
Alpine F#1Status Certified





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