two 10s and a 13
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Topic: two 10s and a 13
Posted By: devilsquid
Subject: two 10s and a 13
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 1:24 AM
i am thinking of running two 10" jl audio w6v2s, and one 13.5w6v2" for deep bass. my thought is to seal the 10s and port the 13.5, but how do i face them in the back of a van to keep them from canceling each other out. i am a capable carpenter and fiberglasser, but when it comes to the technical end of it...well, you get the idea. what are your sugestions on this idea?
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 1:45 PM
I would not recommend this particular application. The driver sizes are fairly close together, the two 10's have more surface area than the one 13.5". You will also need two amplifiers and a crossover with bandpass capability to properly use this system. If you do not have anything yet and you are on the road to deep bass, consider any two subs (plugs for Eclipse aluminum in sealed box 12") and a Audio Control Epicenter. This will get you loud with sq and incredibly deep. The Epicenter will also work quite nice with a ported enclosure should you want to go that route as well.
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Posted By: devilsquid
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 2:18 PM
is there really that much of a difference between a 12 eclipse and a 13.5 jl? i had thought of running two...but im exploring all possibilities. i have a viper d1200.1 and would like to keep to one amp. ive never really heard the eclipse, but i will check them out... -------------
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 2:39 PM
Oh yes there is a massive difference in these subs. The Jl subs are a very good sub, in this case the Eclipse offers a little more. Where is your amp designed to operate at for maximum output, if it is 1 ohm, then 2 dvc 4 ohm subs are in your future. If it is 2 ohm then the svc subs are your weapon of choice. Both models of subs require a very well constructed box of 1.25 cu. ft. per chamber. You'll have to check them out at an authorized dealer as they do not sell them on line at all (and they have no warranty from a e-tailer).
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Posted By: devilsquid
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 2:46 PM
ok...i want part looks, thats why the three and the different sizes, and i also want clarity with rock, and the "neigherhood" to hear rap,etc. would 15" eclipses sound muffled with rock? ive always used 10s and got great rock q, but weak on the low bass...mabye use 12s for a well rounded performer? ive used jl before and love them, but im up for new ideas for this system..thanks for all your input!
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Posted By: MAXST
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 3:29 PM
Could do two brahmas from adire audio,lil bit cheaper than the eclipse, and near it in competition. www.adireaudio.com if you interested. ------------- I need quality equipment, feel free to donate.
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 3:31 PM
At what load will the amp deliver it's most power? Is it designed for 1 ohm mono or 2 ohm mono applications, this will tell us what kind of driver to look for. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: devilsquid
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 4:21 PM
1 ohm....the only weird thing is, it has outputs for two subs, but no bridge option...if im not mistaken its automaticaly brided inside the amp. anyone out there mess with directed amps that can verifiy this? anyways the amp claims one ohm stable. here is the site... https://directed.com/audio/viper/amps/amp_classd.asp
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 4:56 PM
This is a mono amp, thus it does not bridge. It has two outs solely to provide convenience hooking of hooking up multiple subs. The speaker terminal is connected inside of the amp in a parallel configuration. For your amp I would choose two 4 ohm dvc subs in an all parallel configuration.
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Posted By: devilsquid
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 5:32 PM
thats what i thought...hummm...what do you think of the 10, vs 12, vs 15 for sq and bass -------------
Posted By: devilsquid
Date Posted: February 11, 2004 at 5:40 PM
MAXST] wrote:
p>Could do two brahmas from adire audio,lil bit cheaper than the eclipse, and near it in competition. www.adireaudio.com if you interested.
i like what i see, but i also like the price of the w6v2s...quite a bit cheaper...havent looked on ebay yet...but are they, or the eclipse worth the extra money compared to the jls? prob 12s or 13s maybe...im fasinated by the size... -------------
Posted By: devilsquid
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 12:22 PM
just another bum idea....what if i got three eclipse 12s and make the box of one larger than the others...what would that do for me?
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 1:14 PM
No do not do this, the box is the most important part of the equation, get it too small and the bass hits hard but lacks depth, get it too big and it gets deep with no control ("wet fart bass"). Three of these aluminum Eclipse drivers in the right box = major headache but damn will they sound real real good at any volume level. "Do it once, do it right!" = building the right box for the subs. = Eclipse subs =  ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: devilsquid
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 1:27 PM
well, i could do three 4ohm subs bringing me 1.3 ohms...( the amp can take 1)....question is, should i do 12s or would 10s do the job?
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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 7:14 PM
i would go with 2 10 inch w7's instead of the other choices the 10w7 will hit very very low!! and really put out spl as well....never doubt a 10 inch sub the w7 have massive excursion
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Posted By: devilsquid
Date Posted: February 12, 2004 at 9:51 PM
yea, but ive heard problems with the w7 surround coming 'undone' because of its mouting structure...also...im not that rich! i looked at the entry level 10" eclipse alum. and was impressed for one 10 in a van. i think im going to go with them...but i dont know if i want 10s or 12s, then should i seal or port them? the audio shop said port, but i like clean, tight bass...what do yall think?
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