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Low Budget Sub-Amp combos?

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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Printed Date: June 08, 2024 at 4:17 AM


Topic: Low Budget Sub-Amp combos?

Posted By: s7726
Subject: Low Budget Sub-Amp combos?
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 1:05 AM

I am interested in getting a Sub and an amp to provide bass (what else). I don't have a very high budget looking $200 range. For right now i just need a sub amp and a box for the sub. I would like eventually to build a custom fiberglass enclosure/amp rack so i would like if the amp and sub looked decesnt. I would like to match the brand on the sub and amp if possible.
I have a pioneer HU, with preouts for F/R/Sub so getting the amp a signal should not be a problem. I have heard that pioneer's stuff kinda sucks for subs (don't want any flames about it but i am open to new opinions).
Ok so i'm looking for any and all sugestions on what to go for (models numbers would help a lot). as far as the size of the sub i would love a 12, two 12s would be awsome, but again i'm not sure it fits in the budget. my car is a sedan if that matters to the type of enclosure also. I would like to stear clear of used equipment, what i have seen of used subs and amps has usually been through it's pases and beat on prety well (not necisarily cosmeticly).

Thanks in advance,

Gavin S.




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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 1:25 AM
I run 4 pioneer 12's in my car and I hit 146db. I also placed 2nd in two different sq  compitions last year using the same subs and pioneer rev commponents so I think there stuff is just fine and dandy. The subs a re like 100 bucks a piece CND so in the states the must be fairly affordable. Just make sure the box you use is built a little bigger than what pioneer specs and make it ported since you lower budget is going to suggest the amp you get probally will be slightly smaller than ideal so a ported box is going to be more efficent as a general rule of thumb.




Posted By: s7726
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 1:45 AM

Thanks for the advise.

Are you running Pioneer amps as well as subs?





Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 1:52 AM
No I am using an old school HCCA Orion 425. Check out the new pioneer amps iff you wanna stay witht the same brands. I cant say enough that you need to use an efficient box design if you go witht these subs cause they do like the power.




Posted By: brad123
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 1:24 PM

I have some kicker subs and amps.  I can give you 1 Kicker comp 12 and a rockford 201S amp (600max)  100RMS per channel for 150.  For a second 12 I can give it to you for 55.  It woud be about 15 to 20 dollars shipping.  So for 2 12's and amp and shipping you are looking at about 225.  For the 1 12 and amp about 170.  the subs hold 150 RMS so they will sound good but wont be running them to hard.

Brad





Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 3:22 PM
Thats a good deal. Id Jump on that because it seems to meet all your requirements and would sound quite good.




Posted By: s7726
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 6:29 PM
is the rockford stuff your talking about used, newly purchased, new in box, etc. ?




Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 6:49 PM

Don't even think about pioneer speakers or subs. Try using a JL W0 12" or 15" sub (the 12" is about $130 but you can find em on sale for much less). Then use a rockford amp like the one brad123 is selling and you would have an aseome combo. I have this sub and love it. You would come out around your budget and have great sound!!



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Posted By: s7726
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 6:50 PM

are there any JL amps that would power it and be anywhere near my budget?





Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 6:57 PM

No most of the JL amps would be more then your total budget. Using the Rockford Fosgate amp would be fine. Its ok to match amps and subs.



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Posted By: s7726
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 7:04 PM

I know it's ok but for display purposes i would like to keep them the same. (Really not a big issue) I just looked up the kicker subs and for one type it said that it vents through the front so would a seald box be of no use for this? or am i reading about a different sub?

Thanks for the help for a picky guy without much experience picking out equipment. Although i can install it no problem, It just goes to show you don't always know everything about something you work wth all the time.





Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 7:09 PM
Some subs like vented enclosures and others dont. I have mine sealed but i know the jl W0 can be ported. MAke sure to follow directions on how big to make it and how long to make the ports. Also ported sounds boomier then sealed and has a rolled off frequency response below its tuing point.

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Posted By: brad123
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 7:14 PM

All of the stuff is brand new in the original box.  It all has never been opened and carries the factory warrenty.  They are not refurbs.  Let me know if you are interested. 

Brad





Posted By: brad123
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 7:18 PM

The kicker comp can be used in a sealed or vented enclosure.  I just hooked up 2 of the same 12's and a rf amp in a sealed box with 1.5 cu. ft. each and it was loud.  If you go to kicker.com and then go to subwoofers then go to the comp and got and look at the specs.  Hope this helps.

Brad





Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 7:22 PM
JL is better then anything Kicker. Especially their subs. Trust me you will be much happier with a JL sub and the Rockford Fosgate or similar amp.

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: February 23, 2004 at 8:28 PM

Lightning Audio makes an inexpensive amp / sub / box combination available as a single 12" system or dual 12" system. It is branded Fast N Furious, we have had fairly good results from these packages and the basic system starts in your price range.

www.lightningaudio.com



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