Subs being wierd
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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Printed Date: May 03, 2024 at 5:26 AM
Topic: Subs being wierd
Posted By: cheagreen
Subject: Subs being wierd
Date Posted: March 04, 2004 at 11:45 PM
Please help. I decided to move my amp to a different spot and unhooked everything. I moved it and plugged everything back in with some new speaker cable(the other ones didnt match). I turn the car on, and my amp turns on, but:" src="https://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif"> , it isn't near as loud. I check all wiring, i even unhooked the subs to check it out, i don't own power tools, so you can imagine how long that took. i pop the subs out and everythings fine.
2 hours pass by and i cannot find what the hell is going on. Im very upset. I change the speaker cable back, and move the amp back to its original position.
This has never happened before, but now i can hear a pop in my subs when i turn the car off and on, and when i adjust the equalizer it makes noise. My subs aren't near as loud as they were before. WHATS HAPPENING??? thanks guys.
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Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Replies:
Posted By: Prophit
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 12:19 AM
Well the only thing i can think of is the ground wire positioning if thats been moved.. It it has then the new area might not be a good spot. Another thing is that what gauge is the old wiring compaired to the new ones.. Smaller or bigger?? If they are smaller then less power is going through them.. I've been out of it for a while and just getting back in so i could be way off..
Posted By: mobile1
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 12:36 AM
the poping and noise you hear is probably a bad ground.
Posted By: Clean Install
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 1:50 AM
I agree with both of the previous posts, Did you move your ground? or change the wire size?... what happend after you switched everything back to its orignal postion? ------------- If we learn from each success and
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Posted By: harvey1959
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 4:29 AM
Bad ground or broken ground wire.
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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 8:29 AM
Did you move the sub or just the amp? I agree that your power and noise problems are probably related to the amp ground. But if the sound was different when it did work, then you probably moved the sub iteslf and what you are hearing is because of speaker position changes.
Posted By: sam1
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 10:08 AM
i agree. a bad ground is your most likely culprit for the pop. but the speaker positioning can play a big part of your sound. with all the cars ive had yet the bass is much louder when facing them towards the rear. if i face them forwards or even up they just dont sound near as good.
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 11:34 AM
wow, thanks ya'll. Okay, I didn't move my ground point to a different location. Thats why this is wierd, cause nothing is loud anymore. Im using a JBL bp600.1, and my JL audio w3 d4's subs are wired in parrellel. Just incase you thought it was my wiring. I switched my speaker cables to a bigger gauge. I think its my ground but, IT WAS WORKING ONE DAY AGO. lol. I'll check things out.
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Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 11:36 AM
Oh by the way, ofcourse my speakers are firing at the rear lol.
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Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 12:25 PM
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!! I sanded down my original groundpoint. Nothing their. I made another ground point, still not working. My subs aren't loud anymore. OMG WHAT WILL I DO?!?!? lol. My subs aren't loud, they make wierd noises everytime i adjust something. Everytime I put the power wire back in the amp, its supposed to spark right? Somebody give me a worse case senario. What could have happened here? Fried amp, fried subs? Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz ------------- Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 12:42 PM
Worst case scenario: Fried sub or fried amp. When you initially installed the system, did you adjust your gain properly? You could have overdriven a speaker. When you say "weird sounds," is it like a scratching noise or is it more like a muffled hum?.
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 12:48 PM
I believe i no what has happened. I connected the power wire to the amp with power still going through it. So it might have reached the heat sink. I need to get this repaired....*hits head* DUM ASS DUM ASS DUM ASS! Scuse the language. Man im pissed, this amp is 4 days old, she's justa baby. Can somebody tell me what needs to be repaired.? ------------- Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Posted By: Prophit
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 1:21 PM
Well if you got it somewhere you could always exchange it. Next time always pull the fuse before you install anything.. ITs all good i have done this before.. 
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 1:30 PM
Is the amp still on? Does it have a protection led, and to me it sounds like the subs may be wired out of phase, thus a huge drop in output would happen. Did you move the amp back to where it once was to see if the problem can be duplicated there?
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Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 2:09 PM
yea, same result in its original position. Hey prophit, what happened to your amp then?
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Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Posted By: Prophit
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 2:32 PM
Well Thankfully it didnt burn out.. i was suprised.. It works like a champ now.. lol But i have to check my sub wiring to make sure i have then right.. At work right will check when i get home
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 2:38 PM
so did you get it repaired? how much did you pay? My amp still plays music and turns on, but its not near as loud as it used to be. Get back to me prophit.
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Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Posted By: Prophit
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 3:05 PM
No Actually i had it checked at a local shop here in roseville. Guy said it was fine. But i have blown caps before with a friends car.. I had to buy him a new amp.. Well i had to buy a new amp.. But i called the company where it was made and they fixed it and then i sold it on ebay.. Made all my $$ back.. was nice.. lol.. But since yours is only 4 days old take it back.. They should have a 30 day warranty there at the shop.
Posted By: USMC860222
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 3:44 PM
actually the popping noise can be with the rca plug output no joke, the same thing happened to my friends and it was that.
Posted By: oldsbravo5
Date Posted: March 05, 2004 at 11:49 PM
Same thing happened to my friend...he just canned the whole thing. He got everything for free so he wasn't down any money and he didn't really have the space for it anyways. I assumed it was the ground, but he didn't care. You sound like you know a little about what your doing, but did you check your gain settings?? Prophit, you from MN?? ------------- Bravadas are cool
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 06, 2004 at 12:36 AM
Yes. I've installed amps before. I just made a rookie mistake on mine!!! AHHH. anyways, this is what happened. I still had power running through my power cables when i plugged it into the amp. It was still connected to the battery and the inline fuse was intact. It sparked when i plugged it in the battery terminal on the amp. So what im asking you pros is, what needs to be repaired? I mean internally. Or does it even need to be repaired. ------------- Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 06, 2004 at 1:36 AM
Help?
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Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Posted By: BangBang
Date Posted: March 06, 2004 at 4:44 PM
the fuses
Posted By: Alien509
Date Posted: March 06, 2004 at 4:53 PM
I always plug my power cable to my amp with it connected to the battery. I see the spark every time too. The same amp I am talking about I fried half of it on accident because I didn't have the amp grounded when I hooked the juice up power cord to it. My brother told me nothing would really happen to the amp so long as the ground is intact before in power or other wires are hooked into place. He also told me if I was unhooking the amp to remove the ground wire lasty and unplug eveyything else before or something could get damaged.
Posted By: shredder130
Date Posted: March 07, 2004 at 1:50 AM
you should have pulled the inline fuse before you disconnected the power wire from the amp , i never leave a hot power wire flopping around back there
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 07, 2004 at 10:22 AM
Thats not the issue right now bro. And its not my fuses. Im asking is my amp damaged because of this mistake. thanks guys.
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Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: March 10, 2004 at 9:08 PM
Somebody please help. I foundd the problem. Its the signal on my HU. Its too weak. I need a way to fix this problem without buying a new HU. I have 1 set of RCA's on my HU. How do i fix this!?!?!
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Head Unit:Pioneer-Deh-1600
Fronts:Kicker 6x8 S57's
Front Amp:Coustic PowerLogic Amp460
Rear Fill:Stock 6x8's
Subs: 2 10" JL Audio W3's
Sub Amp: JBL bp600.1
Wiring: KnuKonceptz
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