JL Audio Subs

Hey everyone...this is the scenerio,  3 12" w3v2 or 2 12"w6v2, I have always been a fan of memphis, but have recently been taking an intrest in JL stuff.  I am looking for SQ but want to be able to put some serious sound out if i feel like.  Everything is powered by the Memphis Belle amp, the big one not the babye one.  1100 watts to the sub ch @1ohm.  Thanks for any input.

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Memphis MC-1300
2 12" JLw6v2
Diamond audio M3 6x9
Diamond audio M3 5.25 components
Audio control Matrix
Carputer

The W6v2 subs in a proper enclosure would probobly be louder.

i would go with the w6v2 just because with three subs the impedence is always weird like 1.333 or 2.666, this typically means your amp may not be pushing the subs at the optimal wattage

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Alpine cda 9813
jl 500/1
eclipse aluminum 15"

The w6v2's will hit in a well contructed sealed enclosure, they will sound really good. If i'm not mistaken that amp put's out 1100 watts to the sub channel @ 1ohm, right? if so be really carefull with your gains and I also recommend sticking with a sealed enclosure as you will already be overpowering them a bit. I wouldn't worry about blowing em though as JL underrates their subs, if you go to their website they have a power handling chart for all of their subs.

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personally i would say def the W6v2 or why not try a W7??? seems like it would be in the same price range.... but the w6 is incredibly nice and loud...i heard the 8s and they where about as loud as my CVR 12s

im questioning the same as netboy pretty much, im new here..basically, im not sure about what im about to say so dont diss me, just correct me if i am wrong..im trying to decide between..3 12W3v2s..2 12W6v2s..or 12W7, I have the room for all three since i'll be putting them in a grand cherokee when and if i get them, just not sure which ones would sound the best and hit the hardest..I know that one of the deciding factors in a system is the enclosure, so if i got the w7 i would either get a JL h.o box , or a subzone sealed w7 box....they sound amazing in this enclosure when i heard it..also I would most likely be using subzone boxes with the other configurations unless i built my own that was better. thanks..

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i think most everyone would agree with me go with the W7 with the right box and amp though

The W7 is the way to go if you can afford it, either box will work well for it although you might consider building it yourself to save some money. A JL 1000/1 will push this sub very nicely if you can afford it and matches up extremely well with this sub due to the ohm impedance created by the two 3 ohm vc's.

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By impedance I mean that if you wire the voice coils in parralel (default on the sub) it will knock the sub down to 1.5 ohms, the JL 1000/1 will put out full power at 1.5 ohms.

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the 1000/1 puts out full power at any impedance between 1.5-4 ohms due to the RIPS technology it was built upon. if you dont believe me go to jlaudio's website to verify it.

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the 12w7 is .3 dB more sensitive than the 12w6v2...then how much more sensitive would 2 of the 12w6v2 be than 1 12w7? 12w7..86.2 dB efficiency and the 12w6v2 is 85.9 dB efficiency

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the 12w7 is .3 dB more sensitive than the 12w6v2...then how much more sensitive would 2 of the 12w6v2 be than 1 12w7? 12w7..86.2 dB efficiency and the 12w6v2 is 85.9 dB efficiency..i just dont see the point in a w7 if i can get 2 w6v2's for about the same price...that are louder and possibly sound better , in my opinion the w7 is like a fad or something i dont see whats so cool about it

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furkloven wrote:

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the 1000/1 puts out full power at any impedance between 1.5-4 ohms due to the RIPS technology it was built upon. if you dont believe me go to jlaudio's website to verify it.

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No sh*t, I was simply stating that it works well with the W7 because it puts out full power at 1.5 ohms while most other amps in this class need to go down to 1 ohm to put out full power, it's an odd ohm number so it's hard to match to an amp to get the full power to the sub. So before you start going off you should make sure what I  was stating in my post  to begin with.

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sorry man misunderstood your post, i thought you meant that it only put out that power at 1.5 ohms..anyways can you tell me anything about my question in my previous post?

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People generally go with a 1 W7 if they want around the same power that 2 12w6v2's will put out, unless of course we're talking about a 13w7 which puts out 1000 watts rms. I will tell you that I have heard 2 12w6v2's in a ported enclosure and 1 12w7 in a ported enclosure, both were being pushed by a 1000/1 and the w7 owned the w6's. Now that could of been due to other factors such as different hu's and such but I know that the enclosure's were built at the same place so were of the same quality and while hu's make a difference I don't think it can account for the type of difference I heard between the subs. But hey if you get 2 12w6v2's and build the right enclosure for it, power them right and I'm sure you will not be disappointed. I know that I am very happy with mine. Of course there are other options such as the brahma from adire audio which is in the same class as the w7 and cost half as much. I have personally heard one and I must tell you it was amazing, I have a 15" tempest from Adire that I put in my wife's car with a 600 watt amp pushing it and that sub sounds damn good, very clean and very deep and it only cost me $150 shipped.

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What do you guys know about the new memphis M3 subs?  The ones that replaced the HPO subs?

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Memphis MC-1300
2 12" JLw6v2
Diamond audio M3 6x9
Diamond audio M3 5.25 components
Audio control Matrix
Carputer

are the products sold by stores unauthorized to sell jl audio products..such as onlinecarstereo.com or procaraudio.com...of the same quality as products sold by jl authorized dealers? are these dealers legit?? if you have any neg/positive experience with these dealers please post...

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There is no way to tell what these stores are selling, for the most part I believe that it's the same stuff that you can buy from an authorized dealer but that is a risk you run. The stuff purchased from an authorized dealer will be covered by jl without a doubt were as unauthorized dealers can only offer their warranty which can be good or bad depending on the dealer. You just never know, I have not had any of my JL products fail but if I did at least I know that it would be covered by JL. Then again my friend bought his XR's, w7 and 1000/1 from ebay over a year and a half ago and he hasn't had a problem yet. It all depends on how much risk you are willing to tolerate to save a few bucks, in my opinion it's worth spending a little extra cash to have piece of mind. Besides if you live in a major metropolitan area you should have quite a few JL dealers around and should be able to shop around for a good price. I got very good prices on all my stuff and it was all purchased from an authorized dealer.

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netboy

I have used Memphis Car Audio gear, in fact my car was all Memphis until recently. M3 subs are really good, I had last years model (HPO's) in a sealed enclosure being pushed by a Memphis ST-1000D (1100 watts @ 1ohm) I also had memphis studio components upfront being pushed by a Memphis ST-300. The HPO's hit very hard, deep and clean and I never had a problem with them, I ran that setup for about a year until I sold all my Memphis stuff. The only reason I switched out was because I wanted to reclaim some trunk space and I have always loved JL Audio stuff. But if you are looking at HPO's they are definitely a solid sub and can be had for a reasonable price, just make sure you power them well, they are very underrated.

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Well the M3s are going to be ran by the Belle which in essence is same as  your ST-1000d

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Memphis MC-1300
2 12" JLw6v2
Diamond audio M3 6x9
Diamond audio M3 5.25 components
Audio control Matrix
Carputer

I know, the belle is basically a ST-300 and and ST-1000 in one amp. It should push the M3's nicely, just make sure you build the enclosure correctly and don't use a prefab. I gave mine 1.5 cubic ft of airspace per sub, the memphis rep suggested this to me even though the website recommends 1 cubic ft per sub. I must admit that they hit really hard and clear so he must of known what he was talking about.

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