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Building a new system

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Printed Date: April 24, 2024 at 10:08 AM


Topic: Building a new system

Posted By: soccer_aholic
Subject: Building a new system
Date Posted: March 24, 2004 at 10:48 AM

Hey. I am putting a new system in my car. It is a 1994 eagle talon, so it doesn't have much room in the trunk at all. I just put a new 145 amp alternator in and I am going to buy a couple batteries. So i will have plenty of power to run almost anything i want. I have to watch how much money I am spending though, cause of the fact that I am also putting a dvd player and multiple screens in the car. When I comes down to it that all cost a lot of money. I was going to put 4 10" phoenix Golds in but then I decided to look at some other stuff. I am just looking for some ideas on what I should put in. I want it to be LOUD. but I also need save space cause of the size of the hatch and try not to spend to much. Ideas for subs and amps would be nice.



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Posted By: thepyrofish
Date Posted: March 24, 2004 at 11:22 AM
A buddy of mine's got 2 10" rockford power HX2's and it sounds amazing. just go listen to some stuff and see what sounds best for your price range.




Posted By: Disaster092
Date Posted: March 24, 2004 at 11:31 AM
The new Rockford Punch Stage 2's are amazing. I heard 2 12" in a sealed box and i was very very impressed. Definetly something worth checking out.

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 24, 2004 at 1:58 PM

Leave the extra batteries out for now, you don't even know if you need them yet. All they will do is give you a longer play time with the car not running, but they will present a larger load for you tiny little alternator to try and keep charged. If you want a new battery, that is great, but replace the factory one only.

To get loud or loud with some sq, this is totally different. Are you going for all out spl or do want to drive around and enjoy your music and have it play to a respectable level, say 140 db. (permanent hearing damage territory). The road to what you want to do has a lot of questions that need to be asked and answered by both you and the people that respond. I think that I've given you some questions and answers that you should ponder over before you dive in.



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Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: March 24, 2004 at 8:02 PM

Ok about the rockford. I really hate punch. Power on the other hand are not bad. I was actually also looking into buying 2 Rockford 12" Power subs and runnning each off of its own JBL 1200.1. In my last wehicle (S10) I was running only one power and a 1200.1 It was not bad. But I am not sure yet. I think I want louder then that. And I am replacing the stock battery and putting in atleast one more. I am planning in going in some SPL competitions in the area so I will need that. and I guess my defentition of not much money if more then most peoples out there. I think I may hook it up so that I can run one sub when I am just driving around normally, and then make it so i can runn everything all at once at the flick of a switch. this way it will not put wear on my alternator.



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Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: March 24, 2004 at 9:14 PM

yea, thats not too hard, just put each sub on a seperate amp, and toggle switch the rem wire. not too hard. i've done it a few times



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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp




Posted By: 94bonny
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 10:22 AM
haha thats an interesting idea, but with a 145 amp alternator, you could easily handle 2 10" woofers

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Alpine cda 9813
jl 500/1
eclipse aluminum 15"




Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 10:42 AM
Ok I think I am going to put in 3 Rockford HX2 Power subs (12inch) and run two of them off of a JBL 1200.1 and one off of a 600.1. Then I can either run 1,2, or 3 of them at once. That leaves  me a lot of options and i will not put useless wear on the alternator. Plus it will pound. what do you guys think?

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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 5:49 PM

What about two or three 12" Eclipse Aluminums? These would pound pretty hard.





Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 6:00 PM
I would not head in the direction that you are contemplating, while in theory it will work, in praticality it will have some issues. I would go back to the drawing board, have a rye or two (I think that's a great idea - 2 bad work is not over yet). Let me think on this a bit and see what else I can come up with and see what else is posted. The goal is a little SPL and a little sq, is warranty on the equipment important? I'm sure that you are aware that the road to two batteries is also going to include a mbi. Is that in your plans as well?

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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.




Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 10:44 PM
Eclipse!? I think you would love the bass they put out.

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Posted By: 94bonny
Date Posted: March 26, 2004 at 9:54 AM
i agree with forbidden, having three subs hooked up to two amps is a little on the unpractical side, in my opinion if you are going to do that you might as well get three amps to match your 3 subs, three jbl 600.1 instead of 1 1200.1 and 1 600.1 makes more sense to me at least

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Alpine cda 9813
jl 500/1
eclipse aluminum 15"




Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: March 26, 2004 at 10:30 AM
Hey this is for forbidden, to me the warranty is not that big of a deal. If i break something I will just buy something new. Yeah I was aware that two batteries would include an mbi. it was in my plan. are you still recommending that I just stick with replacing the stock battery and not put in an extra? Cause if it is not worth it there is not point wasting my money. Also what would you recommend for a system and how to set it up?

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 26, 2004 at 2:17 PM
I would not jump on the second battery bandwagon yet, find out if it is needed first. You don't go out and buy size 36 levis when you are a size 30. The second that you go for multiple amps it is a massive increase in current draw and opens up the possibilities for problems with system design and reliability. KISS this system and it will perform to what you need, then you will discover if the mbi and second battery is in your future. Buy the right amp and sub and match to the proper box with a good cd player, maybe a dose of Epicenter and away you go. What spl level are you hoping to achieve? I'm busy here at the shop today, so it may take awhile for me to respond.

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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.




Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 7:35 PM
I am trying hit 150db atleast. Do you think that is possible with 3 rockford Power HX2 subs and three JBL 600.1s? I think that is the system I am heading towards so far. Or do you have any suggestions for a system that would be better for about the same price range?

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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 7:46 PM

What about 2 12" eclipse aluminums and  1 JBL 1200.1s? These would be plenty loud. At the local car audio shop where I live they have two 10s in a ported box and it shakes the whole store. 





Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 7:46 PM
Where in Canda are you and where do you shop for equipment, what brands are local to you? I would not head down the 3 sub amp road either, not necessary in this case.

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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.




Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 7:59 PM
I live in Lethbridge alberta. I can get any brands. i will just drive to Calgary if i need it. Do you think i would hit 150 with just two 12 inch powers? maybe hook each one up to a 1200.1

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 8:16 PM

I imagine that this is a daily driver for you and that you want to be able to listen to your music as well, correct. If this is the case then the overall design and choice of components are drastically different from a pure SPL system. 150db is stinking loud dude, way into permanent hearing damage territory. I hope that you have good or amazing front speakers, ampified and a good cd player to round it out, otherwise you will be the one note wonder bass machine. At that volume level as well it is important with the choice of the cd player. 150db is no good if the shockwave of the subs cause the cd player to skip. Just a little more things to contemplate. When do you anticipate starting this system?



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Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.




Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 8:22 PM
I am planning on starting this as soon as i decide what to put in. I had two alpine type R's in there before and hit 143. Yeah i just bought a new CD player a few days ago. payed 700 for it. I am running type r components in the front with an alpine with an alpine mrd m 450 right now

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 8:37 PM
What cd player are you using?

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