amp for 12 inch eclipse87121dvc
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Printed Date: July 07, 2025 at 7:43 PM
Topic: amp for 12 inch eclipse87121dvc
Posted By: framedragger
Subject: amp for 12 inch eclipse87121dvc
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 5:16 PM
okay, well ive got my single 12 inch eclipse87121dvc, i fried my kicker 400/2 for some unknown reason, and dont ask about wiring cuz i dont know how it was wired, my friend did it and hes a good installer, he knows his stuff. so what i was wondering is .....what amp is good for these subs 4 ohm dual voice coil 400 watt rms. i need something cheap but quality. it can be off the net it doesnt matter, but i NEED a D class amp or atleast a mono channel
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Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 5:40 PM
one more question, the phoenix gold titanium subs, i can get for 69 a piece right now......are these subs good? for some reason ive seen also some best buy setups (yes i know i know) that hit nicely when setup like supposed to...i have a connection at best buy.......2 punch 12's and a 900/1 fosgate amp.....should i? or should i gete a PG amp (the one for 100 dollars) that pushes right at my rms.
Posted By: gregfocker77521
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 5:44 PM
That PG amp for $100 probably will only tickle that Eclipse sub...
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 5:45 PM
lol u just wanna sell yours....im thinkin bout buyin a while new setup anyways....my friends all hit harder than me with best buy setups....one with pioneer and fosgate and one with punch and fosgate...i love the pioneer/fosgate setup....cheap too
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 6:17 PM
Keep the eclipse, and get a amp that will push around 500wrms at 2 ohm ------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 6:26 PM
the sub is not stable at 2 ohm......and if i do get an amp..........its gotta be cheap.....i think.....man i dunno im pissed though, the amp is four ohms, and the sub is 4 ohm and for sum reason it blew its pisses me off, cuz my paid 1300 for a system and in a year and a half it blows....they gipped us on the set up anyways. would u say a 500/1 on that ONE sub??????? that doesnt make since if the RMS is 300 and peak is 600 and the jl 500/1 is 800 max or so.......please explain in DETAIL if u will
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 6:35 PM
Theres no such thing as a un stable sub. Your sub can be wired to 2, or 8 ohm. That is why you blew your amp. You had it wired to 2 ohm on an amp only stable to 4 ohm, thats where it went wrong, the install. You shouldn't let a non authorized installer to install your equipment, thats why lots of companys don't honor waranty unless an install receipt is shown. I said go for around a 500 wrms amp is because that way you wont over stress the amp to get the potential of the sub. What is your price range that your willing to spend on an amp? That way its easier for us to reccomend the best amp in your price range. ------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 6:44 PM
well about 300 to be honest, im 16 with no job, ive been tryin to get one forever now. but ya AROUND that.
Posted By: irhino2
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 6:51 PM
You want real power for your money?? Go for a Volfenhag amp!!! Cheap but very effective. Much less than your 300 limit.  ------------- Rhino - Bringing you only the best in car audio!!
Posted By: irhino2
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 6:55 PM
If you really insist on spending more, you might think about a fosgate RF. It will put you around your limit, but they work well with the Eclipse subs. Remember to get a little higher RMS on the amp than the sub is rated at. This will keep from overworking the amp to push the eclipse. All you have to do is tone the gain down a bit. ------------- Rhino - Bringing you only the best in car audio!!
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 6:56 PM
ive never heard ANYTHING good about those lol......havent heard much at all actually.....where do i find them....and how do i know they are good
Posted By: gregfocker77521
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 6:57 PM
I was selling him a Planet audio P1002 for $200 and I was turned down. Amp is 550 watts @ 2ohms bridged. What you guys think?
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 7:02 PM
pretty good deal
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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: gregfocker77521
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 7:06 PM
they dont make them more they are 2000 models I think, but they are awesome.
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 7:14 PM
greg ur funny i dunno man, how much do fosgates run and exactly how good are the volkenhog????? (spelling)
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 7:20 PM
Planet Audio is a killer amp. I run an older model Saturn and LOVE it. I used to sell them and they are great. Volfenhag is flea-market quality CRAP - they make real expensive fuses dressed up to look like subs and amps. Don't waste your money. I think "volfenhag" is Chinese for "ha ha, we ripped you off!" ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 7:22 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLLO
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2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 7:27 PM
okay well i dont want to start another thread so ill ask here.....if i want a kicker L5 12 the rms is 600, would me getting a 500/1 JL be the right way to go or should i get a 600/1 kicker? i really dont know bout kicker seeing as one blew.....my fault or not.
Posted By: flatulatta
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 7:43 PM
umm... no1s brought up jbl amps...if ur in the sh**thole for money ... like me in the same situation get a jbl... good power but no filter.... 600.1 jbl for 200.... or 1200.1 for 300
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 7:48 PM
is a filter needed?
Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 8:16 PM
flatulatta wrote:
umm... no1s brought up jbl amps...if ur in the sh**thole for money ... like me in the same situation get a jbl... good power but no filter.... 600.1 jbl for 200.... or 1200.1 for 300
Its got a low pass filter on it if thats what you mean by "it has no filter".
Posted By: irhino2
Date Posted: April 11, 2004 at 9:20 PM
OK!! First of all, I am a Volfenhag dealer and I haven't had a lick of trouble out of them!! As a matter of fact, my installs are winning competitions all over the place. I am out performing any Eclipse I have come across. Sure, the amps aren't as good as some of the upper priced ones, but the subs hit HARD!! The only ones I have had to warranty are the ones that people have installed on their own and have no idea how to set them up. I have other product lines that I sell, and I'd put the Volfenhag's up against any one of them. By the way, Volfenhag is German, Not Chinese!!!
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Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 5:19 AM
he got heated over a sub debate......i find that sooooo funny......considering NOBODY CARES....anyways back to the topic at hand......this JBL 600.1, is it gunna push over the 600 easy....cuz i need it to if i want it.
Posted By: flatulatta
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 8:20 AM
its got the same fuses as an 800w amp.... so it pushes alot...it blew my old l7
Posted By: flatulatta
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 8:21 AM
customsuburb wrote:
flatulatta wrote:
umm... no1s brought up jbl amps...if ur in the sh**thole for money ... like me in the same situation get a jbl... good power but no filter.... 600.1 jbl for 200.... or 1200.1 for 300
Its got a low pass filter on it if thats what you mean by "it has no filter".
i meant subsonic
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 4:57 PM
okay, so this JBL amp on my one eclipse will work fine? and when i get my second one it will do just as well? im just tryna not waste 200 bucks lol
Posted By: flatulatta
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 4:59 PM
if u plan on using 2 subs... get a jbl1200.1 300$$ b/c if not ull be pushing those subs atlike 300rms with 2 hooked up
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 5:26 PM
thats what the RMS is, but i may go with the 1200.1 but that will blow my single sub wont it?
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 9:20 PM
No it will not, it will allow a good amount of headroom. Keep the gain as low as possible to prevent sss (smelly speaker syndrome) (did not happen in your case though). If your cd player has a sub level control, then you may want to keep it down nice and low as well. There is nothing wrong with having too much power (depending on how you use it).
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Posted By: pureRF
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 9:30 PM
irhino2 wrote:
OK!! First of all, I am a Volfenhag dealer and I haven't had a lick of trouble out of them!! As a matter of fact, my installs are winning competitions all over the place. I am out performing any Eclipse I have come across. Sure, the amps aren't as good as some of the upper priced ones, but the subs hit HARD!! The only ones I have had to warranty are the ones that people have installed on their own and have no idea how to set them up. I have other product lines that I sell, and I'd put the Volfenhag's up against any one of them. By the way, Volfenhag is German, Not Chinese!!!
Thats funny. Volfenhag set up right couldn't come close to an Eclipse set up wrong. ------------- dream it, build it, fiberglass it
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 3:01 PM
one other thing, seeing i would rather not send my sub back to eclipse.....is a PROfessionally repaired sub as good as a new sub? this way the 1200/1 can just be setup for these two
Posted By: dustin_parks79
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 5:09 PM
No offence but you dumb if you get a volfenhag, that is the dumbest thing i have ever herd of some one saying on this......lmao.....for the price you are willing to dish out i would go with power acoustik,SPL, R/F there are great deals on all of them at millionbuy.com.
just spend your money like you no how don't waist in on volfenhag! and another thing you should have bridged your subs with your old amp it would have raised the ohms, and lasted longer, there is such thing as 2ohm stable 4ohmstable and 8ohm stable, for amps and subs
thank you any other ????
Posted By: dustin_parks79
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 5:10 PM
no a repaired sub can and will never be as good as a new one!
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 5:17 PM
I will be glad to debate that last post, pretty sure a lot of other people will as well. Framedragger, if your sub is still under warranty, send it back to Eclipse and get the cone / voice coil replaced. This in fact makes it a brand new sub. If the voice coils are fine then a simple reglue of the cone to the surround will be fine.
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Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 5:24 PM
okay well to the kid that called me "dumb" you must not of read my posts to clearly AS IM KEEPING THE ECLIPSES.....jerks.....ANYWAYS, back to the point of my recent post, how much would it be to see if these things are fine..voice coils and what not. also, the subs are under warranty but if its cheaper to get repaired i will do that....and im not even sure if the shop sent in my warranty info to eclipse....does anyone have a number or email address for eclipse so i can find out if its been submitted?
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 6:13 PM
See what Eclipse will do for you first, you have a PM. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 6:23 PM
thanks, ill contact them and see what can happen
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 7:21 PM
does anyone know the eclipse site?
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 8:04 PM
www.eclipse-web.com re: repaired as good as new. Actually, a repaired speaker is evry bit as good as a new one, as long as the repair was done by someone who knows their business. Indeed, I have used re-coned speakers in professional applications many times, and often the performance exceeds the OEM specs. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: framedragger
Date Posted: April 14, 2004 at 5:13 PM
thanks
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