Remote start on a manual tranny

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Topic: Remote start on a manual tranny

Posted By: nitroguy
Subject: Remote start on a manual tranny
Date Posted: April 17, 2004 at 10:25 AM

Im thinking about adding remote start on my car but it has a 5spd. Is there any switches or something to prevent my car from starting when its in gear?

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Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 17, 2004 at 10:39 AM

It can be done... with the Clifford stuff, it is all built in! I did it on my '01 Civic, and it is so cool. I press button 8 on my remote, turn off the ignition (engine stays running), open the door, get out, close the door, arm the system, (engine turns off). If the alarm is triggered, (but not just a warn away) it WILL NOT remote start, but if it never does, the alarm brain knows the car is not in gear, (because of the above sequence of steps), and will start when I press button 8 on my remote. I can even leave my windows open, or control them with the Clifford SmartWindows, and as long as there is no triggering of the alarm, the car will start. I do not know of any other manufacturer that allows remote start on manual trannies. If there is no absolute fail-safe on the remote start brain like the above, it will ALWAYS be possible for the alarm to try to start the car, whether it is gear or not. This will be a bigger liability to you than I think you want to have.

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Posted By: ridnlow
Date Posted: April 17, 2004 at 11:11 AM

A friend of mine Installed a Audiovox APC995C on his truck which is a 5 speed. He just bypassed the clutch.. big mistake.. Hes got a toggle swtich on his dash however that can allow the truck to start or not... One day we were at a gas station inside eating (it has a krystals inside) and we were leaving.. he hit the remote start (it was in gear) and the truck came and joined us inside the building.. so be careful if you decide to bypass the clutch.. That clifford alarm sounds like the way to go...

Posted By: icu400
Date Posted: April 17, 2004 at 12:48 PM

holy crap, that sucks.....

Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 17, 2004 at 1:32 PM

Yes it can be done, there are many remote starters that are designed for manual transmissions.

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Posted By: robbie2883
Date Posted: April 17, 2004 at 1:35 PM

there is a SAFE way to do it....but you have to install a safety switch which bypasses the clutch only when the gear shifter is in neutral. if the shifter is not in neutral then the relay for the clutch engages and the clutch has to be pussed in for remote start. as for the switch on the shifter....there are a number of ways to do it....ground when in neutral, or magnetic reed switch when in neutral.....do some research on the web and see what you find.

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Posted By: toyota_4runner
Date Posted: April 17, 2004 at 5:35 PM

Peripheral Neutral Safety Switch (NSS) is a switch which will do ur work. I also want to install alarm on my 86 4runner (5speed) but still havent decided which one. Someone recommended me omega max with this NSS.

Haemphyst, what model is this clifford unit? is it a remote start and alarm combo?

Nitroguy, I have the manual for this NSS (pdf), I can send it to u if ur interested.

Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 17, 2004 at 5:48 PM

It is a Concept 550,(G5) Intellistart,(G5) and SmartWindows (G4). It also has a module for interfacing with the transponders in todays' cars. I also ordered the CliffNet Wizard, which allows me to hook my PC to the brain(s), and program EVERY parameter, from siren sounds to how long the engine cranks, to temperature monitoring for the SmartWindows and Intellistart, to remapping buttons on the 5 button, 12 channel remote... Kewl Gear! One of the better features of the Clifford stuff is the CliffNet where all there is, is a digital cable to connect all of the brains together, and all you have to do is interface the stuff with the car. If you want to look at the software, you can download it, install it, and look at the control here: https://www.clifford.com/g5/wizard/download/Wiz210.EXE Check it out, and you'll see why I love the Clifford gear...

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: April 17, 2004 at 7:44 PM

If you work for a major retail store..this is out the question.

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Posted By: nitroguy
Date Posted: April 18, 2004 at 5:26 PM

Does the Clifford 3.5 do the same things as the Clifford G5?

Posted By: nitroguy
Date Posted: April 18, 2004 at 5:57 PM

How long does it take to install the remote start and the Neutral Safety Switch

Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: April 18, 2004 at 6:34 PM

a good shop should be able to install the whole thing in a day. as far as your question about the 3.5, I can't say for certain. i bought all of mine at one time so i had the biggest, baddest, fastest, most... your local clifford dealer should be able to answer that question.

TeamRF, what did you mean about the retail thing and being out of the question? I'm a little bit lost.

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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Posted By: robbie2883
Date Posted: April 18, 2004 at 7:24 PM

he meant...most retail shops won't do a remote start on a manual tranny b/c of liability.

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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: April 18, 2004 at 8:22 PM

Autostart also makes a full line of manual tranny remote starters, if im not mistaken, they were the first legally. But i may be wrong.

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