Kappa Vs. JL
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Printed Date: May 13, 2025 at 8:44 AM
Topic: Kappa Vs. JL
Posted By: preluder14
Subject: Kappa Vs. JL
Date Posted: April 26, 2004 at 8:13 PM
I'm saving up right now for 2 12's that i'm going to be putting in the trunk of my Prelude. I want something that will pound and have good SQ. I was wondering which subs are the best in your opinion: 2 12"JL 6v2 OR 2 12" Infinity Kappa Perfects. And if you had to pick between JL, Kicker, Eclipse, Infinity, and Alpine which one has the best balance between SQ and SPL. Thanks. Who makes good subs? i have an Eclpise powering my speakers and it sounds great.
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Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: April 26, 2004 at 8:21 PM
In my opinon, for the money...Alpine. I had a couple of Type R 12's and I love them. They pounded hard and sounded awesome!! But, if money is not an option...I say either the kappa perfects or Eclipse. Over those two, go with Eclipse!! I love eclipse. Kicker is totally SPL, most of the time not SQ. And JL is over priced. Hope this helps! ------------- Soccer_aholic
Posted By: Keefer
Date Posted: April 26, 2004 at 8:24 PM
If you really want a good sub, get an Adire Brahma, or if you don't care about price, go for the Pheonix Gold Elite...
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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: April 26, 2004 at 8:30 PM
I'd pick JL over infinity but i would just buy Eclipse aluminums. These subs rock.
Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: April 26, 2004 at 8:44 PM
haha, yeah the brahma is amazing....so loud. and if you buy eclipse save up and buy the titaniums (i love those subs)...but yeah, out of what you said, Alpine for your best deal. And If not, Eclipse. Although that Brahma will make some heads turn ------------- Soccer_aholic
Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: April 27, 2004 at 2:11 AM
id say between the apline and the kappa perfects. for the price.. eclipse if you have the money!
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Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: April 27, 2004 at 2:39 AM
i have experience with both the kappas and the type r's, and I would have to say that the Type R's souded much better, hit harder and cleaner, and louder. Just my .02
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Posted By: preluder14
Date Posted: April 28, 2004 at 8:25 PM
Where can you get Brahmas? I've heard great things about them from forums all over, i've never seen one in a store, inlcuding chain stores like Best Buy and Circuit city and the smaller pro shops in my area. How much do the Brahmas run for? From all the info so far i think the eclipse titaniums are sounding pretty good. Thanks In peoples opinions, is buying on ebay a safe choice when the seller promises it new and in box?
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: April 28, 2004 at 8:35 PM
Both the Eclipse aluminum and titanium will spank you with bass if necessary and have sq that Kicker can only dream about. The titaniums are a pretty penny, I would use two aluminum 12's and the proper box with the proper amp. The minute you step up for two of thes bad babies, you have to step up with the proper amp and box. It is a sizeable investment that will not let you down. I can guarantee this match. Ebay is a dumping ground for garbage. Stay away from Ebay. Eclipse is only available at an authorized dealer. They can sometimes be found on line but there is no warranty, regardless of what the seller claims. Buy from the authorized dealer and reap the rewards that they can offer.
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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: April 28, 2004 at 9:19 PM
JL w6v2 all the way. They are a little more expensive then the kappa but i love the sound quality and given a load of power and they can handle it! they will pound to no end
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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: April 28, 2004 at 9:27 PM
How about 6 Eclipse aluminums 12" subs and 3 JL 1000/1s. Slap them all in their own sealed boxes and let them rip.
Posted By: Keefer
Date Posted: April 28, 2004 at 11:06 PM
Here is where you get the Adire Brahmas, www.adireaudio.com they will run you about $350 a piece, and go up with $50 increments every 2 inches...i.e. 12" for $400, and so on... This pound, and have the greatest sound quality ever, they do require some power though, look into them, you can always get something else.
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: April 28, 2004 at 11:16 PM
preluder14 wrote:
Where can you get Brahmas? I've heard great things about them from forums all over, i've never seen one in a store, inlcuding chain stores like Best Buy and Circuit city and the smaller pro shops in my area. How much do the Brahmas run for? From all the info so far i think the eclipse titaniums are sounding pretty good. Thanks
You can buy them at www.sound-foundations.us and https://www.visionaryaudio.com/ . They are both friends of mine, and are good people. They also offer free shipping on the subs, so that should save you money from buying direct. Of course I would first check our dealers list to see if there is a local dealer. Here's the link: https://www.adireaudio.com/dealers/dealers.htm Steven Kephart Adire Audio -------------
Posted By: xTimx
Date Posted: April 29, 2004 at 7:15 AM
well considering the guy is asking about kappa vs infinity and no other subs! jeez guys!
i would definately go with the JL W6v2. and if your still not convinced with them.....go to the website and on the main page i believe is a CA&E review for these subs!
read it, i'm sure you'll be convinced after your done reading it
and if you look at the specs sheet for the sub, it even gives you the box dimensions for building a sealed and slot ported box. C'MON! you cant get any better than that!
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Posted By: Steve West
Date Posted: April 29, 2004 at 12:57 PM
'Sup Yeah id go with 2 Kappa Perfects! Get at least 500w into em and they'll roar. Plus the Variable Q REALLY REALLY WORKS! Anyone that tells u different doesn't know what they're on about! It really saves space though using a smaller enclosure with a the Hi Q piece in there for a real punch Quality hitting bass. With 2 Kappas though ya install will look da bomb, getting my enclosure mdf shape modded n decked in fake white suede, its all Pimpin DO i really look like Britney? damn man
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: April 29, 2004 at 9:02 PM
Steve West wrote:
'Sup Yeah id go with 2 Kappa Perfects! Get at least 500w into em and they'll roar. Plus the Variable Q REALLY REALLY WORKS! Anyone that tells u different doesn't know what they're on about! It really saves space though using a smaller enclosure with a the Hi Q piece in there for a real punch Quality hitting bass.
You know, you can vary your Q on any dual voice coil driver as well. All you do is hook one coil up to an amp, and hook the other one up to a potentiometer. Here's a paper that describes this in detail: https://www.adireaudio.com/tech_papers/dvc_subs.htm Steven Kephart Adire Audio -------------
Posted By: southside
Date Posted: April 29, 2004 at 9:22 PM
y go thru all that when u can get a sub with pole inserts that goes into the sub? a lot eaiser to do, a lot less work too  ------------- southsider
Posted By: T.Hill
Date Posted: April 29, 2004 at 9:53 PM
I agree with xtimx on the JL's(as long as you can aford them). Check out this review....
https://www.caraudiomag.com/testreports/0403cae_jlaudio/
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Posted By: xTimx
Date Posted: April 30, 2004 at 9:29 AM
is there a reason why JL audio is over pricing they're poducts, i mean like c'mon! 2000$ for a pair w6v2, thats rediculous! all of they're stuff is over priced. i bet you any money if they lower the price, people would have better satisfaction and alot more people would buy them cause they already know they are good...but they're just to damn expensive!
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Posted By: chevyman26
Date Posted: April 30, 2004 at 9:49 AM
I haven't had a lot of experience trying different high end subs, but my money usually goes to Image Dynamics. I have 1 10" IDQd4 v.2 in a custom box under the rear seat of my 97 chev ext. cab getting 250W from a Xtant 121m at 2 ohms, and holy s**t!. Before they take a closer look inside everyone asks how I fit 2 12's in there with the seat still in (that's just what they assume, but then, they aren't exactly pros either). My buddy has 2 12" IDMAX's in his '92 Regal with a 1200W Phoenix Gold amp, and man, you can't even sit in that thing when he turns it up. The MAX's run about $350 each, and the Q's you can find for about $175 or so.
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Posted By: T.Hill
Date Posted: April 30, 2004 at 1:23 PM
I think some one was trying to rip you off. $2000 for a pair, thats insane. You can get 3 W7's for that price.
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Posted By: xTimx
Date Posted: April 30, 2004 at 7:21 PM
umm t. hill. dont forget, your in the states. your 1 dollar is like 3$ here
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Posted By: T.Hill
Date Posted: April 30, 2004 at 7:23 PM
Opps sorry man. Didn't pay attention that you were up there in Canada. I do agree with you though about JL being too damn expensive.
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Posted By: xTimx
Date Posted: May 01, 2004 at 2:15 AM
PROTEST TIME! lol JJ. i would buy JL audio products. and i know they're gonna last me, but i just dont have the money.
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