I need it to be louder
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Printed Date: May 01, 2024 at 8:19 PM
Topic: I need it to be louder
Posted By: soccer_aholic
Subject: I need it to be louder
Date Posted: May 31, 2004 at 11:06 AM
Ok. I have a friend who is running a 1 12 inch stroker, off a planet audio PA-2500D. he told me that he just broke 150 db with this set up in his jimmy. Now I am the most competetive person in the world and I will not let him get away with being louder then I. The weird thing is we are both bought the same amp (planet audio PA-2500D) without knowing it. the only difference is I own an Audiobahn AW1208T. I need to be able to be louder then him. I just want to know what little things i should do to make sure i get the most out of my system. Anything that will improve my spl will help. ------------- Soccer_aholic:^:
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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: May 31, 2004 at 11:11 AM
Like you said, you have an Audiobahn... If you want more SPL, get a better woofer with longer throw and better construction and put it into the correct ported enclosure. Something like an Eclipse Aluminum, an Adire Brahma, a Planet Audio FU, etc. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: May 31, 2004 at 11:14 AM
At the moment changing the sub is not an option. I know that the Audiobahn is not the best choice for this. it will eventually get changed. I am looking into getting a planet audio FU but not right now. anyways I just want to know what little things i can do. Like my box i am going to use 1 inch mdf instead of 3/4. just things like that. ------------- Soccer_aholic
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: May 31, 2004 at 11:40 AM
The best you can do is follow the "ultimate SPl bass box" guidelines provided by the manufacturer. Then be flexible with placement in your vehicle to find the "sweet spot" position for the enclosure where it sounds the best. 1" MDF for the baffle board (where the woofer is mounted) is a good idea. Be sure your enclosure is well braced and all seams sealed. Be sure to mount the ports on the same side as the speaker. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: May 31, 2004 at 1:47 PM
Ok. Do you guys think that I have a good chance of taking my friend in the next spl competition?? He will be running his in a jimmy and i will be running mine in a 1994 eagle talon. Do you think i should hook a cap up? also how much will dynamat do? ------------- Soccer_aholic
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: May 31, 2004 at 3:49 PM
i really doubt that he hit 150, , but do everything you can. . and then when it comes to comp time blow him away and make him look silly. He prolly only hit 135 or so.
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Posted By: bucktussa
Date Posted: May 31, 2004 at 6:35 PM
150 with 1 stroker?!?!?? nah... people need to keep it real.
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Posted By: dbdraggirl
Date Posted: May 31, 2004 at 6:42 PM
I hit 147.5 with 1 12" Kove Armageddon Z... So it's possibly to get up there in the big numbers with one sub.. Just throwing that in there
Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: June 01, 2004 at 7:51 PM
Does anybody have any suggestions on how to make it louder??? maybe a cap?? dynamat?? things like that?? what dorta things help?? ------------- Soccer_aholic
Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 01, 2004 at 8:45 PM
soccer_aholic wrote:
Does anybody have any suggestions on how to make it louder??? maybe a cap?? dynamat?? things like that?? what dorta things help??
Dynamat (or something like it) might help. The only thing you can really do is build the proper enclosure and go for it. ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: lspker
Date Posted: June 01, 2004 at 8:57 PM
Yes you can clear 150 with a Stroker. For years Strokers were the main stay of comp cars. If you eant to beat him go to 15" Stroker. That Chinese driver just won't keep up. If your basic set up is not close then reinforecing the box, adding caps, stuff like that won't gain much.
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: June 01, 2004 at 8:58 PM
I agree. Base is in the enclosure. Take your time and do your research. Also go around and find some box building programs and play with them. Also I believe the DB Drag record for 1 sub is around 169.
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Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: June 01, 2004 at 9:03 PM
The meter used to measure his setup will make a difference as well. On an Audio Control mic, it is very possible for him to hit a 150. We had a single IDMax 12 do it. But on the newer Termlab (IIRC) mic's, it is highly doubtful he broke 150. If you don't care about how it sounds, then also check out Digital Designs subs. They are designed to be high SPL one note wonders. Steven Kephart Adire Audio -------------
Posted By: cheagreen
Date Posted: June 02, 2004 at 1:13 AM
He couldn't of hit 150 with the new mics. What car does he drive, Mini cooper?
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Posted By: Ketel22
Date Posted: June 02, 2004 at 2:18 AM
a gmc jimmy
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Posted By: soccer_aholic
Date Posted: June 02, 2004 at 10:23 AM
How much of an advantage will i have dew to the fact that i drive a eagle talon and he is putting his in a much bigger jimmy? ------------- Soccer_aholic
Posted By: keniwi
Date Posted: June 02, 2004 at 8:19 PM
Hello Soccer_aholic, Remember bigger is not always better. There are many great competitors as well as newbies you will be amazed all you can learn from everyone. Of course everyone has many suggestions some don't really get along with the comment. But, all do agree that to build a great system you must use common sence. 1st - If money is the question then u should start by doing the system by yourself. 2nd - Dismantel the inside of your car, take the covers of the doors, take the seats out, stripe it naked. Then cover the car with carpet padding about 1/8 inch thick (use the one that the persons use the mat in Yoga you will see what I mean) and use contact cement let it dry for 24 hrs it is the same but your not buying the NAME. But if money is not an issue then buy b-quiet 50 sq.feet for $89 or dynamat for $249 peel off and place directly easy and simple. 3rd- Run all your cable accordinally left or right (+ / - and remote) one side. And speaker cables the otherside, the RCA jacks should run thru the middle. 4th- Look at your trunk or hatchback that is the place where ti must be perfect. The mat or b-quiet or dynamat should be placed double. Put an extra battery especially because you are running over 1000 watts and a cap 1.0 minimum. 5th- Make the box 1" thick and embrace it from the inside also place mat ot b-quiet or dynamat inside that will help alot. That is all can not say much about what components should you place since are many out there. I might like one brand name while you probably will not like it. 6th - Remember that the amp should have at least 105 db of THD it will cost you money. Yet, you will never be dissapointed in the investment you done. Goodluck, Keniwi
Posted By: keniwi
Date Posted: June 03, 2004 at 11:56 AM
Hi, Going back to Answer #6 I made a mistake the 105 dB should be "Signal to noise ratio" NOT (THD).
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