Unknown names in Subwoofers

Everyone knows the big names in car audio... Alpine, Infinity, JL, Kenwood, Pioneer, Sony, etc. But what about the names that aren't so big like Pyle,  Earthquake, and Pyramid? I know there are more. I want to know any experiences anyone has had with other brands of subs and amps so that I can find better speakers for the price. I hate having to pay more for a label.

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Sometimes the label has engineering behind it that the no names can only dream about. It depends if you want to buy a great sub, a good sub, an OK sub, or a POS Wannabe sub. Any sub can work great if it is not abused. Any sub will fail if it is abused, regardless of label.

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Sony's not bigger than Pyramid, is it??      ;)

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Well, you have others such as Dual, Clif Designs, Visonik, Quantum, Ample, etc... There are a few brands out there that DO build a decent sub or amp, and don't rake you over the coals to get them.

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Sometimes the label has engineering behind it that the no names can only dream about. 

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That can be true the other way as well.

Steven Kephart

Adire Audio

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can anyone suggest a good sub for a good price? I want to put a 15" and 2 x 12" subs in my brothers cherokee, the problem is that he has a limited budget and I can only help him so much.

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Has anyone had experience with MA Audio?

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Chappy wrote:

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can anyone suggest a good sub for a good price? I want to put a 15" and 2 x 12" subs in my brothers cherokee, the problem is that he has a limited budget and I can only help him so much.

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What are you looking for?  Are you looking for as loud as possible, or do you want it to sound good?  Do you need something efficient, or do you have a lot of power available?  Around how large of an enclosure do you want to use?  If you can answer these questions, we can make some suggestions.  But I will recomend not mixing different sizes like you have above. 

Steven Kephart

Adire Audio

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you mentioned earthquake above. Any of us who have been around for a while knows damn well who earthquake is. They were a pretty big player a while back but have died down alot in the last couple years. If you can get earthquake in your price point and you want loud then earthquake is definatly worth a look

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Stay away from Volfenhag, Lazar, Legacy, Boss,Sony,Pyramid etc.  These companys make cheap subs, and even cheaper amps.  You can find some good brand name subs at fairly low prices at https://www.onlinecarstereo.com/  Their are some good Kicker, Infinity, Rockford-Fosgate, MTX, MA Audio and Polk Audio subs on this site.  I agree with Steven, dont mix sub sizes. Either go with two 12s or one 15, not both.

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The 12's are for the punchier bass and the 15 will be for the low rumbles. I saw a setup like this with in an expedition and it was amazing. The 12's were setup with a bandpass filter around 75hz - 150hz and the 15 was setup with a lowpass at 80hz. I liked the setup.

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Chappy wrote:

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The 12's are for the punchier bass and the 15 will be for the low rumbles. I saw a setup like this with in an expedition and it was amazing. The 12's were setup with a bandpass filter around 75hz - 150hz and the 15 was setup with a lowpass at 80hz. I liked the setup.

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What you've described is the perfect way to use mixed sizes.  Set up correctly and with the right drivers, it can really be effective.  Then add a set of 7" or 8" woofers in stereo crossed between 150 and 600 Hz for the full ffect...

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Alpine, Infinity, Rockford, ect.  We all know these brands for a reason-they have been producing quality products long enough to be recognized as such.  They are big companys that have the $$ for research and development, marketing, and extensive testing.  They have been proven over and over again at making products to exceed the customer's expectations.  Are their products infallable-No.  Of course sometimes there are defects in materials or manufactoring.  But that's what warranties are for, right.  In my experience you get what you pay for.  You're not just buying the name Alpine, you're buying the quality product behind the name.  That's not to say you can't get a good product from Pyramid, I just wouldn't reccomend it

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Chappy wrote:

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The 12's are for the punchier bass and the 15 will be for the low rumbles. I saw a setup like this with in an expedition and it was amazing. The 12's were setup with a bandpass filter around 75hz - 150hz and the 15 was setup with a lowpass at 80hz. I liked the setup.

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What you've described is the perfect way to use mixed sizes.  Set up correctly and with the right drivers, it can really be effective.  Then add a set of 7" or 8" woofers in stereo crossed between 150 and 600 Hz for the full ffect...

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Yes, that's true.  But he could get the same results from a good 15 that is properly setup (minus the 12's).  Plus he would save on room and power.  But if he does want to break it up like that, I suggest using 8's instead of 12's.

But I personally wouldn't want so much coming from the rear.  If possible, you want your front speakers to be able to play down to around 60 Hz, and have your subs pick up in the back from there.  That will reduce localization that way.  Maybe a better option would be a better midrange up front to give you those lows.  Or go with the above suggestion and use dedicated midbasses up front, but have them play down to 60 Hz.

Steven Kephart

Adire Audio

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MA Audio is pretty good, and inexpensive....I currently run an MA Audio 8" sub, and MA Audio tweets in my 92 Ranger and have not had any problems out of them, plus they sound great.

Back to the original question:

Chappy wrote:

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Everyone knows the big names in car audio... Alpine, Infinity, JL, Kenwood, Pioneer, Sony, etc. But what about the names that aren't so big like Pyle,  Earthquake, and Pyramid? I know there are more. I want to know any experiences anyone has had with other brands of subs and amps so that I can find better speakers for the price. I hate having to pay more for a label.

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Pyle, Earthquakle and Pyramid are very well-known names.  Pyle and Pyramid are ultra-low-end margional quality and not recomended if you care about sound quality or longevity.  Earthquake (Hohmann International) on the other hand is a very good brand (located right down the street from my office) that compares favorably with high end brands like Morel or Dynaudio, but they can be hard to find.  Their Magma car woofers are fantastic and their amps are quite good.  They make a superb line of home theatre equipment (their SuperNova sub woofer is one of the best for the price.)  Highly recomended if you can find their gear.

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