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Topic: Infinity subwoofers

Posted By: g8trhtr
Subject: Infinity subwoofers
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 7:45 AM

Anyone had an expierience with the Infinity subwoofers? when looking at subs does the woofers spl equate to a higher db? Let's say a 92db to a 86 Jl.



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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 8:34 AM
I use Infinity Kappa series subs (and main speakers) all the time.  I like their sound a lot.  The lower lines tend to leave a little to be desired IMO.  The numbers you refer to are efficiency (or sensitivity) ratings.  In general, all other things being equal like enclosure type, a speaker with a higher efficiency rating will produce more sound pressure with a given power input, but a speaker with a lower effiiciency rating will be able to handle more total power.  So the answer to your question is not in that rating alone, it is determined by the total system design.

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Posted By: g8trhtr
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 1:49 PM
The Kappa is what I am looking at. (120.3dvc.) I had a Jl 12w0-8, but, I blew it over the weekend. It seems to match better with the ported box I have tuned @ 35, 2.07 ft3. I have a Kenwood 800 w puching it. or should I say had. I used a box calculation that takes into account the sub parameters. Gives you the gain and the spl. The infinity does better on paper. I am a JL fan though.




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 1:56 PM
Which Kenwood amp?  They don't make a genuine 800 watt amplifier that I know of.  And the Infinity is rated at 300 watts BTW.

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Posted By: g8trhtr
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 2:06 PM

Kac 7201, 800w maw, 460w @ 1, 230w x2 @2, 150w x2 @4 RMS





Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 2:41 PM
OK, your amp is realistically rated at closer to 300 to 400 watts RMS into a bridged 4-ohm load.  You cannot connect a 2-ohm load to this amp in mono, so a DVC 4-ohm sub is a bad choice.  You need a SVC sub.  The SVC version of the Kappa is the 120.3SE, but like I said before it is only rated for 300 watts and that means your amp could potentially over-drive it.  The Kappa Perfect 12.1 is a better choice if you like the sound of Infinity, as it is rated at 350 watts, but I run them at 500 in a sealed enclosure all day long in my car.  The 2 cuft ported enclosure you have may be a bit large for Infinity 12's, however, as they want a smaller area closer to 1.75 cuft.

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Posted By: g8trhtr
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 3:01 PM

can I not run 230x2 @ 2ohms to each coil?

or run it @ 8ohms by wireing in series. + (amp to +L coil), then - (L coil to + R coil )and ( - R coil to - amp). will that give me a 8ohm load?





Posted By: g8trhtr
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 3:06 PM
been in my kenwood book, it states that it can operate safely when connected at a 2ohm load. 2 4ohm in parallel to one channel of the amp, producing up to 100% more power. so does that mean i can run lch in mono?




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 3:09 PM
The speaker determines the loading, not the amp.  The ratings given for an amplifier are simply what it can safely deliver into the speaker impedence load connected to it.  If you wire a DVC speaker for 2-ohms, you would have to connect it to ONE channel of that amp and you'd get approximately 230 watts (on a good day  More like 200 actual.)  The other channel would remain empty.  I suppose you could get a second woofer that matches the first one for the second channel.  And yes, if you wire a DVC 4-ohm speaker in series at 8-ohms that will be safe for the Kenwood in bridged mode.  You should get somewhere around 200 watts that way as well.  If you connect a 2-ohm load to that amp in it's mono (bridged) mode, it will not work very long and max smoke may result.  Or at least an amp that shuts down.

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Posted By: g8trhtr
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 3:56 PM

 well crud, that stinks  any suggestions on a sub to match.

Thanks for your help...





Posted By: g8trhtr
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 4:08 PM
one last question.... can you connect 1 channel to one coil and the second to the other coil for a stable 2 ohm load at 230 a piece?




Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 4:52 PM
This is not recomended due to the differences between amplifier electronics and voice coil irregularities.  Plus, since each coil is 4-ohms, you will operate at the 4-ohm per channel rating, which is the same as 8-ohms total bridged.  If you must use a DVC 4-ohm speaker, and that Kenwood amp, then running bridged into 8-ohms is by far the best setup.  Again, get a SVC 4-ohm speaker for best results with that amp - or get a different amp.

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Posted By: mobile E
Date Posted: June 09, 2004 at 10:16 AM
I had 2 infinity kappa perfects and i loved them, they were in a sealed custom box i built.. one word clean.. anyways i think there the best subs out there for the money you can get them from ebay or whatever, i loved them until they got stolen...      posted_image posted_image posted_image posted_image   i heard they didnt sound good really if there ported tho...




Posted By: AirNavy
Date Posted: June 09, 2004 at 12:34 PM
I ran two Perfect 12.1s for about 4 years until one of them finally gave up and blew. The last two years of that paralleled on a JBL BP1200.1. So I did what anyone would and bought two more to replace the blown one. Now I have three of them paralleled on the BP1200.1 and love it.




Posted By: g8trhtr
Date Posted: June 10, 2004 at 9:36 AM

I found this on crutchfield. Is this true?

Also called DVC speakers. For subs, they provide two pairs of inputs allowing you to drive one sub with two amp channels, or let you wire the voice coils in parallel or series to reconfigure the speaker's impedance. For full-range speakers, it allows you to drive the speaker's mids and highs with one amp, and the lows with another. ( Back )





Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: June 10, 2004 at 10:30 AM
hey DY, he can get a dvc sub for that amp, he can get a dual 2 ohm sub, or a dual 8 ohm sub.

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