2 amps 1 sub
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Topic: 2 amps 1 sub
Posted By: bruno71088
Subject: 2 amps 1 sub
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 8:41 PM
is there a way to hook up 2 diffrent amps to 1 sub to get the max power from each amp to the sub?
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Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 8:47 PM
Well, most people's first reply is obviously "No it is not safe nor recommended". And in most cases this is not only true, but also invaluable advice.
However, it really depends on the amp. Kicker makes amps (like their KX1200.1) that are specifically designed to be "strapped", and the outputs of both amps being used to safely drive a single sub.
Do you have any amps already in mind that you are specifically asking about, or are you just asking a general question? ------------- Squirrel
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Posted By: bruno71088
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 8:51 PM
i have two pioneer amps(GM-X862) that are running two mtx thunder 8000 and i wanted to upgrade to 1 sub that would hit just as hard with these two amps.
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Posted By: aussieaccord
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 8:57 PM
if you had some thick bitch wires when u connected the channels from each amp together, and then run the fat wires to your sub? that should put the power through without loss of quality...You must either have 2 sh*tty amps or a hella good sub
Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 9:06 PM
it's never recommended to run 2 amps to 1 sub unless the amps are specifically designed for it. The signal variations alone in the outputs of the amps can shred a single sub (SVC or DVC) attatched to both amps. "Strapped" amps are designed to split the input signals, and use the controls of the primary amp for both amps output. The amps are joined in accordance to the manufacturer's specifications.
I can't find any info on GM-X862 on the Pioneer site, but did find a GM-X822. Either way, I haven't found any documentation supporting either amp being capible of "strapping". I'll keep looking though and will let you know if I find anything else out.
Until you hear differently, I would not recommend running a single sub using both amps at the same time. ------------- Squirrel
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Posted By: bruno71088
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 9:11 PM
thanks alot for helping me out squirrel i can get the specifications and all that stuff for the amp if thats what u need
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Posted By: bruno71088
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 9:14 PM
Specifications
Continuous Power (14.4V): 125Wx2 (4 ohms), 190Wx2 (2 ohms), 380Wx1 (4 ohms)
Max Power (14.4V): 250Wx2 (4 ohms), 760Wx1 (4 ohms)
Frequency Response: 10Hz - 50kHz (0,-1dB)
Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.008% (1kHz, 4 ohms)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 100dB (IHF-A); Dimensions: 11" x 2-5/16" x 12-3/4"
Features
PWM MOSFET Power Supply; Bridgeable 1/2/3 Channel Capability
Balanced Isolator Input Circuit
Gold-Plated Screw-Type Power/Ground Terminals
Gold-Plated Screw-Type Speaker Terminals
Gold-Plated RCA Inputs
Hi-Volt Input Level Control (200mV-6.5V)
Molex Type Speaker Level Inputs
Selectable LPF: 80Hz (-12dB/oct.)
IM not sure if that will help
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Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 9:15 PM
No problem.
Yea, that's what I'm looking for. Primarily information on the input and output options/features. But anything may be helpful ------------- Squirrel
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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 9:24 PM
Unless you're really strapped (pun) for space, running two subs should give you more volume and better sound than one sub, using the same power. ------------- Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: bruno71088
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 9:25 PM
Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 9:25 PM
From the looks of it the amp will not support strapping (there aren't many that do).
IMO your best bet is to run 1 sub from each amp. You can either use (1) 4ohm SVC or (1) 2ohm DVC per amp for the 380 x 1 @ 4ohms mono/bridged rating.
A little side note, you wont get the full 380 watts. Pioneer based their ratings on a 14.4 volt setup, not the standard 12 volt setup. So unless you've upgraded your electrical system to 14.4 then you'll get a little under the 380 rating (probably no less than around 350 watts).
It will still sound good though. I used to run 500 x1 @ 2ohms using 2 SVC subs and it sounded good (that's apx. 250 watts per sub, you'll have another 100 watts on top of that).
Just make sure your subs can handle the wattage. You want subs that are around 300 to 350 RMS to best match that amp ------------- Squirrel
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Posted By: bruno71088
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 9:31 PM
i already have all that setup i have 1 amp to each of my mtx thunder 8000 but i was thinking about getting like 1 mtx 9500 or something and running it off both amps oh well thanks for all the help
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Posted By: wvsquirrel
Date Posted: June 08, 2004 at 9:46 PM
No problem. Judging by the manual your amps will not support strapping. If you wanted to run a single higher power sub then I'd suggest getting a larger Class D amp to run it (instead of another Class AB).
You'll get more watts per dollar from a Class D amp since they usually sacrifice THD for more power. Class AB amps are usually cleaner with a lower THD rating (distortion ratio) since they are designed primarily for running internal speakers (lower THD ratio Class AB amps are generally more expensive because they are designed more for SQ than SPL, and internal speakers are rated a lot lower RMS wise than most high powerred subs). Class D amps are designed for one thing, running subs. ------------- Squirrel
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