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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 10:42 AM


Topic: Sound deadener

Posted By: chan4202
Subject: Sound deadener
Date Posted: July 08, 2004 at 10:21 PM

I need some deadener for a cheap price, I know everyone wants stuff for cheap, but I need to cover an entire suburban, No clue on how many square feet, anyplaces to buy, what kind and how much would be great.

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Chandler Martin



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Posted By: mj239air
Date Posted: July 08, 2004 at 10:54 PM
check out www.b-quiet.com and get you some brownbread. i too have a suburban and am using this to cover the inside. be prepared to buy a lot because you have a lot of room to cover if you are going to do it right. I don't know the exact amount because i just bought a lot of it and i am using multiple layers.




Posted By: aggie altima
Date Posted: July 08, 2004 at 11:12 PM
I would recommend RaamMat. It is available at www.RaamAudio.com, and is pretty inexpensive. 62.5 sq ft for around $100, and it is just as good, if not better, than Dynamat Xtreme. I have both in my car, and in my opinion I can't tell the difference between the two, they both are getting the job done.

I just checked right now, and they are selling it on ebay for $79 + shipping.

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Jon
Don't like rockford subs? Then don't look at my car =)




Posted By: godd dan it
Date Posted: July 09, 2004 at 2:30 AM

https://www.fatmat.com...... another sound damping you could go with.





Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: July 09, 2004 at 6:11 AM

https://www.mcmaster.com/ has a sound damping sheet, 12 sq ft @ $14.62.  Comparable to Dynamat.  See page 3270 and this is the line to look for under "Adhesive-backed damping sheets": 

Polymeric Mastic 0.070" 32" x 54" 0.10 -30° to +300° F 0.7 Black

9709T19

 

14.62

I ordered 36 sq ft, paid $11 for UPS ground shipping, and received it the next day.  It does the job of damping completely, so I couldn't be happier with it.



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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: July 09, 2004 at 3:56 PM

stevdart is right, that mcmaster stuff is cheap.  However, it's acoustic loss factor isn't as good as products like brown bread, dynamat xtreme, raam, etc.  Additionally it is MUCH easier to apply any of the above mentioned products.  Peel, stick, roll. 

mcmaster stuff NEEDS a heat gun to stick. 



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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: July 09, 2004 at 6:38 PM

I don't know.  I applied it in 80 degree weather, had the sheets laying in the full sun, too.  It stuck to the sheet metal better than the Dynamat I applied back in March, though there was a 35 degree temp difference.  Def used a heat gun with that Dynamat!  I found, though, that there were still some edges of the McMaster polymastic that wouldn't hold well on a curve.  But a shot of spray glue on the metal made the adhesive seem like epoxy.

I don't know either what the difference is in acoustic loss factor is between this and the rest.  But I do know that my car could be heard a block away without the damping, and the rattling sound around the doors and trunk were obnoxious before I put it in.  Now, the sound will blast you out of your seat, but barely can be heard outside.  And no rattling, at all.  That, my friends, is acoustic damping factor in my book.



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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: July 09, 2004 at 6:41 PM

lol very true.  They publish those numbers for suckers like me. ;-) 



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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder




Posted By: lensam69
Date Posted: July 09, 2004 at 9:30 PM
Doesn't the mcmaster stuff smell like a newly paved road?? Being asphalt based?

I want to put some [cheap] sound dampening in my car, but i'm concerned about the smell...

What's your experience stevdart?


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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: July 09, 2004 at 10:01 PM

It has a bit of an asphalt odor when it is warm, installing it, but I have not noticed any odors this summer on even the hottest days entering either the cabin or trunk.  I have some Dynamat original in the car, too, and it is also asphalt-based.  If someone were to have stamped the Dynamat imprint onto the polymeric mastic, I wouldn't have been able to tell the difference between the two.  After I did the rear deck with the Dynamat, then had so much more to do, I was looking at having to spend about another $160 for enough Dynamat to finish.  But then I got a tip on this forum about McMaster-Carr, and instead spent $43 for it.  The site is very automated and they ship fast.

The damping doesn't have a tremendous amount of glue, but it is sticky.  Wipe the metal clean first of any dust, and in a few places I shot a quick light spray of 3M spray adhesive onto the metal for a better bond.  It has been covering the inside lid of the trunk now for a couple of months and there hasn't been any sagging or failure, but I did spray a bit of glue onto some areas there.  I just cut the pieces into workable sizes when installing, figuring if I ended up with some sagging the weight wouldn't pull it all down.  Because at the time I first heard of it I also heard from others that it wouldn't stick.  Hey, everybody, it sticks.  Just don't expect it to install itself...you'll have to give it a little help  :)



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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: July 10, 2004 at 1:35 AM
Dynamat it.

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Posted By: T.Hill
Date Posted: July 11, 2004 at 5:40 PM
I boutght some of the Mcmaster sheets and can tell you it doesn't stick to the curves very well at all. I haven't tried the spray glue like steve did. As of now I'm just using it on the flat surfaces. I haven't noticed any smell from it in or out of the car. Not even when I heated it up with the heat gun. It's not very pliable either. It is cheap though...

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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: July 11, 2004 at 6:30 PM
T.Hill, I believe you're the one I got the info from back in about April about McMaster.  It worked well for me, and I then justified my purchase of a mono amp with the money I saved on the damping.  Thanks!

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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.




Posted By: fugit
Date Posted: July 11, 2004 at 6:47 PM
I got some second skin stuff for my doors and it works GREAT.  It's called STFU-80, and it doesn't smell AT ALL.  Price is a bit steep though, I got some for a discounted price and it still cost me. 40 sqft for 160$, but it rocks.  Sticks great too.  I live in new mexico so it's stupid hot right now and like I said no smell.

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Posted By: T.Hill
Date Posted: July 12, 2004 at 2:10 AM
I think that was me that told you about this stuff. I had only worked with it a little bit then , but now that I have worked with it more it has it's pros and cons. I'll try the spray glue trick next time I use the stuff. I am also curious about the liquid vibration control that comes in the bucket which is on the same page at Mcmaster. It seams like it would have some good uses. later....

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Pioneer DEH-P980BT, Zapco DCREF1000.4,Pioneer TS-C520PRS, Adire Extremis, MTX TA91002, TC Sounds TC-3000 15"




Posted By: chan4202
Date Posted: July 14, 2004 at 9:43 PM
Alright I have decided to use fatmat and my only questions are, how much should i need to cover everything, not the roof, unless I really need to? Is one layer going to be okay or should I do two? What type of square feet for a suburban?

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Chandler Martin




Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: July 15, 2004 at 12:40 AM

It goes much faster than I anticipated.  I ripped through a 36ft^2 bulk pack of dynamat xtreme and was only able to finish the front doors and under the rear seat.  I doubled up in places when doing the front doors if the spot still made a hollow sound when tapped.  I also matted the inside of the outer door skin. 



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New Project: 2003 Pathfinder





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