Sub Selection
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Printed Date: August 06, 2025 at 11:19 PM
Topic: Sub Selection
Posted By: TheSaint421
Subject: Sub Selection
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 1:17 AM
I am thinking of getting 2 Audiobahn 10" Flame Q Subs for my system. but I am also liking the Alpine Type - R 10" subs too. I am leaning toward the Audiobahn subs because these subs will be inverted, and the baskets will play a large part in the selection. can you guys let me know what you think about these two subs and maybe sugest other 10" subs that work good and also have cool baskets. oh and please remember I am looking for subs that need about 300W RMS, and cost no more than 300 each. thanks, The Saint
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Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 2:13 AM
i'd go with the alpine cuz they are a much better sub. If u want cool looks, go right ahead and get the audiobahn, but you'll be disappointed. ( IMO )
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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp
Posted By: TheSaint421
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 2:17 AM
thats the problem, I want great sound primarily, the cool looking basket is a secondary thing. but as they will be inverted to show off the baskets, it's still important. thanks.
Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 2:21 AM
well, the basket on the type R isnt "cool" looking, its still a nice looking rear end, unlike many other woofers out there. Just think of it like this; would u rather have something that looks cool but sounds like ass, or have something that sounds good and looks almost as good. also, everyones got the audiobahns reversed. not many people have the type r's reversed. u can set the trend in ur hood and be cool too!! lol ------------- 1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp
Posted By: TheSaint421
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 2:26 AM
" want great sound primarily, the cool looking basket is a secondary thing. but as they will be inverted to show off the baskets, it's still important." thats what I meant by my last post. thanks man.... The Saint
Posted By: thapimpfromchi
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 2:39 AM
i know what u said. I was just making sure thats what u meant. ... that didnt come out right. I was just making sure u said what u meant. there, thats better. Well, if what u say is true, I think you answered ur own question. However, I'd hold off and hear what Rob and DY have to say. They always have something good to say. lol.
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1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp
Posted By: TheSaint421
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 2:43 AM
heh heh, thanks man The Saint
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 1:34 PM
There are may subs out there that are going to fall into those requirements with cool looking baskets. The audiobahn has always been on the bottom of my list but I put alot of companies on that list that people say I am crazy to put on there. Off the top of my head I would suggest looking at some of the new pheonix gold subs, they have a pretty mean looking ass on them and they sound pretty good. They fall into your requirements. Also the new MTX 7500 and Competion series subs look pretty cool from the rear and sound really nice. Those are just a couple of examples but if you do a little looking around on the net I am sure you can find something you like.
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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 2:08 PM
I agree w/ Ravendarat. Alpine, MTX, Pheonix Gold over Audiobahn any day imo. ------------- New Project: 2003 Pathfinder
Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 2:15 PM
How about Alpine type X or MTX 9500? They would look great like that.
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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 3:05 PM
Too much power and too much money for what he is looking to spend. At least thats according to his first statement
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Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 3:08 PM
Go on ebay and get some 8000 series MTX aluminum cone version. They were top of the MTX line last year and can now be had a a major discount. The 10" single 4ohm voice coil # is T8104a
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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 3:34 PM
actually they werent the top of the line mtx subs from last year and even so the 7500's or competion series (depends on where you buy them from as to what they are called) are actually a superior sub. Power handleing is rated at 100 watts less but I can say from experience that they actually will handle more power and play louder than the 8000's. You could also look at the Superwoofer from MTX this year. It would still be in the price range, Has a meaner looking magnet structure than any of the other subs mentioned and will run perfectly fine off of 300 watts rms. Remember that the Superwoofer and competion woofers are only avalible in single voice coil forms where as the 7500 and 8500 are avalible in both svc and dvc. In MTX svc and dvc do not change the power ratings at all, they just offer more wiring options.
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Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 3:38 PM
Ravendarat. If the 8000 sreies was not the top of the line MTX last year, then what was?
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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 3:40 PM
The 9500's were out last year as were the RFL's. Both were higher end models. The 9500's were released after the original product launch but are still considered as part of last years line and carried over to this year. The RFL's are still the tp end SPL sub by mtx but cant be used for regular listening
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Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 3:44 PM
I did not necessarily mean exactly last year, but the last series before this current run. So I am correct about the 8000 series being the best (Not Including the RFL) available from MTX before the 7500,8500,9500 series.
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Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 3:47 PM
I personally use 3 8000 series and hace been extremely pleased with them. I would also highly recommend them. When I replace them next year, I will buy the 9500's at a major discount because they will have released the next bigger and better series. Like all companies do. I stay a year or so behind the current trend because it makes no sense for me to pay way more just to have them "right now"
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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 3:55 PM
In the last series there was no 9000 if thats what you are trying to get at. Also if I remember right you drive a truck and have them under your seat right? If you do then good luck ever trying to get 9500 to fit under the seat. Also remember that when they ask for 750 watts rms a piece Thats not a max rating but what they want to preform properly. They will handle far more bt in reality must have that much power to make it worth while. I can also tell you that there are no plans to replace the current subwoofer line for till after next year. So you probally wont find those things at a discounted price till sometime in very late 2005 or early 2006 so I hope you can wait. If you wanna replace your subs with something better, I would suggest the 8500's to you. While I totally agree the 8000 are awsome subs the 8500's are in a whole new league and will be a big upgrade from your current drivers.
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Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 4:06 PM
They are in my mercedes. Here is a link to check out some pics. https://www.meimann.com/images/mercedes/W124_stereo/Angels_300E/ Mine are fine and should be the same when I sell them. I have no problem waiting until the 9500's price drops. My 1200.1 was hand picked with a certificate of 1650 watts and I run them parallel for 1.33 ohms. No heat problems or anything and I use them heavily. It's hard to tell from the pics, but I built my amp rack with a place to mount one more 1200.1 above for later. Do you have any personal experience with the Type-X's? I have a friend who is considering them. ------------- BOOM, BOOM, BOOM BOOM....
Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 4:08 PM
I forgot to add that I built my enclosure to fit Brahma mark II's or JLw7's, so the 9500's have plenty of room.
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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 4:15 PM
Thats a nice ride man. The only experience I have with them is I was talking to one of my friends who is an alpine dealer in town and he said that even though the w7, ehich he also sells, is more money, it is well worth the extra money to buy it. The type X got a big thumbs down from him and he likes alpine. For what its worth I say a test where it did a side by side test for spl and power handling using the 13.5 w7, the 12 inch Solobaric L7 and the 9500 and the 9500 absolutly curb stomped the hell outta the other 2. It wasnt even close. They used a big 4000 watt crown amp and measured the voltage going into the drivers and the W7 capped at about 108 volts were as the 9500 took the full 140 volts the amp could produce and still held composure and linear movement. I cant rember the exact number for the L7 but it was like 103 or something to that effect. I like the car though man. Very nice.
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Posted By: MBZ oe
Date Posted: July 13, 2004 at 4:21 PM
Thanks for the compliment Ravendarat. He will be building a custom enclosure soon, so I will tell him again to go with the 9500. He wants to "top me" I don't mind. There is always someone out there who has something Bigger and Badder. Know what I mean?
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