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Topic: first time wiring a new system

Posted By: grnxb
Subject: first time wiring a new system
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 9:58 AM

okay- this is my first time wiring a new system.  I will be using a xtant 403a amp and it will be located about 5 -6 feet away from battery.  I will likely use the RF CP4DCKR wiring kit so I can add another amp later on.  So will this work: Positive battery post 4ga power and ground wire to dist block, 4ga wire from dist block to fused dist block, 8ga power and ground from fused dist block through firewall to amp, remote turn on and rca from amp to head unit, speaker wire from amp to speakers.  Am I overlooking anything?



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Posted By: raydawg357
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 10:59 AM
I would run the 4 ga through the firewall and mount the distro block close to the amp this way you will have more juice from the battery.  I would also look into a capacitor to help minimize the battery drain.  Sounds good though.

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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 1:55 PM
Leave the cap alone, you do not need it and more than likely will never need it. Ignore the distibution blocks entirely for now. Run the wires direst to the battery from the amp. The amp should be internally fused, thus the no need for another fuse near the amp. Make sure that you do have a fuse close to the battery rated at the same combined value as the ones in the amp or slightly higher.

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Posted By: mazaraki
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:02 PM

Definantly run the the 4ga through the firewall !   Do Not put a D-block in the engine comartment (lot's of problems).  Put an "in-line" fuse no more than 1-2 feet from the battery.  Run the 4ga as far as you can then go to the D-block.  Same with the ground, you want the ground D-block as close to the amps as possible.  Make sure you have a GOOD ground.  don't wrap a wire around a seat bolt.  You shouldn't need a cap.

Also, very important.  Run the RCA cables on the opposite side of the car from the power, remote, and ground wires.

Have fun.



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Posted By: mazaraki
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:03 PM

Definantly run the the 4ga through the firewall !   Do Not put a D-block in the engine comartment (lot's of problems).  Put an "in-line" fuse no more than 1-2 feet from the battery.  Run the 4ga as far as you can then go to the D-block.  Same with the ground, you want the ground D-block as close to the amps as possible.  Make sure you have a GOOD ground.  don't wrap a wire around a seat bolt.  You shouldn't need a cap.

Also, very important.  Run the RCA cables on the opposite side of the car from the power, remote, and ground wires.

Have fun.



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Posted By: grnxb
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:07 PM

If I were to skip the distribution block, would it be difficult to add one later on if I wanted to add another amp?  Also, the xtant 403a amp is not internally fused and they require a 60amp fuse installed in line w/the power wire at the battery.  I can handle that, but the manufacturer states that for safety, an outboard 60 amp fuse may be added close to the amp.  Would that outboard amp fuse wire up just like the in-line fuse? and what purpose would it serve if an inline fuse of the same value is already installed?





Posted By: raydawg357
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:10 PM
Grnxb... if you are planning on adding another amp in the future.. as you stated, look into a cap.  The two amps will cause your lights to flicker with the bass and you will find yourself replacing batteries sooner than normal.  With one amp, your fine,  with two, you might want to think about it.

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Posted By: grnxb
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:34 PM

as far as running the rca(s), can it/they go along side the speaker wires?  I have read numerous postings of running power down one side, speaker wires down the other side, and rca(s) down the middle.  I want to pull up as little carpet as possible as the wife is already nervous about me doing any work on it ('05 Scion xb) as it is only 3weeks old.  Will speaker wires and rcas cause a problem if they are next to each other?  By the way, thanks to everyone for responding/answering my ?'s.  I might actually get this all installed without catching the car or myself on fire.





Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 4:48 PM

Input wires such as RCA's or other twisted feed wires can run along with the output speaker wires.  Keep all power wires to the other side, incl. remote turn-on.  Distros and caps are the easiest add-ons to a system.  They each are mounted near the amp and the power wire is already there.  So there is no tearing up the car again.



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Posted By: grnxb
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 6:27 PM
Nice!  Thanks for your help.




Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 6:47 PM

As the amp is not internally fused, use your fused distro block within 18" of the amplifier if possible. This fuse is designed to protect the amp unlike the fuse at the battery which is designed to protect the vehicle.

Still stand by the no cap necessary at this time. A cap does not make power, it stores and uses it. If your lights are flickering, the first thing to do is upgrade all wiring at the battery / alternator, next upgrade to a better battery and next if it still not good enough is to add a HO alternator.



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Posted By: grnxb
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 1:07 PM

Rob- Based on what you said, I doubt I'll need a cap or likely anything else for awhile.  I will be using the xtant 403a amp to power some cdt door components and one re-10 sub( sub at 200w rms @2 ohms). The amp/crossovers will be under the driver's seat and the sub box will be under the passenger's seat. Based on how close everything is to each other I should be able to get that f.d.b. within 3-4 inches of the amp. 

Are there any consequences for mounting the amp/f.d.b that close to each other?

 I hope this relatively low wattage (@3-400w) will not affect the lights or anything, but I guess I'll find out what I'm in for when/if I ever add another amp so components/sub can recieve seperate power.





Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 1:36 PM
No consequences to worry about at all. I would not expect any problems with power delivery unless your battery is on it's last legs. Always upgrade the wiring at the battery for the most efficient transfer of current to your system.

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