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DIN Cable constuction

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Topic: DIN Cable constuction

Posted By: Sweekster
Subject: DIN Cable constuction
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:32 PM

Hey Guys,

In my quest for more knowledge in the whole car audio thing, I decided to learn how to make (if it's possible) DIN cables. (I just learned how to make RCA's and I feelin brave!!). I've got this old kenwood amp (can't remember the model number at the moment-it's at home and I'm at work) that had bought for one of his cars that's been sitting in his garage for a bout 10 years. I'd like to test it but it uses (at least I think it does) an 8 pin DIN cable for the audio signal input.

Does anyone know of a way that I could possibly find the Pin out diagram of the amp and then maybe make my own rca/din input cable?

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Duane...

If you think you're confused, imagine how you feel.   :errr:



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Posted By: Sweekster
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:34 PM
I really need to proof read my stuff...it's an amp my dad bought for one of his cars a long time ago..a 2 channel kenwood made back in 1992 i think

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Duane...

If you think you're confused, imagine how you feel.   posted_image




Posted By: beady
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:41 PM

I've got 2 old Kenwood amps like that with the circular DIN plug.  Model numbers are KAC-9020 and KAC-5020.  I found the manual for the KAC-9020 on Kenwood's site, but it doesn't give the pin-outs, sorry.

I asked my electrical engineer buddy about finding replacement DIN cables for it just a few days ago.  He said that there are several sources of electronics parts that sell the DIN cables, you won't have to make one.  Sorry, the name he gave me escapes me right now.  Might have been Tiger or Tigerparts or something?  Anyway, you'd need an old harness to compare it to anyway.

One of my old amps is in another state, along with it's harness, and the other one is up under the dash of my Jeep.  It hasn't been hooked up for years and years, and I'm not even sure the harness is still there.

Look for the pin-out info, and if you absolutely can't find it I'll dig around under the dash of my Jeep and see what I can find.

Mike





Posted By: beady
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:44 PM

Sweekster wrote:

I really need to proof read my stuff...it's an amp my dad bought for one of his cars a long time ago..a 2 channel kenwood made back in 1992 i think

I think you'll find the amp is older than that, looked like most of the DIN plugged amps stopped being produced in the mid-late 80's when I was looking for teh amp on the Kenwood site (didn't know the model #, just remembered the shape and was opeing every manual to look at the amp pics, lol).

Mike





Posted By: Sweekster
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 2:51 PM
I'll have to do some more research then. I'll post what the model number and pic of it when I get home. But thanks for the reply...

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Duane...

If you think you're confused, imagine how you feel.   posted_image




Posted By: beady
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 4:21 PM

Sweekster wrote:

I'll have to do some more research then. I'll post what the model number and pic of it when I get home. But thanks for the reply...

Hey, I just looked in my Jeep, harness is still on the amp.  Well, the thing is that the harness is PART of the amp.  It's the KAC-5020 and the DIN connector is on the end of a cable that runs from the amp.  The other Kenwood amp of mine has a DIN connector on the end panel of the amp if I remember.

I can tell you what the pins go to on the 5020, but I can't gaurantee it'll be the same for your amp.

Look on your amp and see if the connector on the amp has pins or sockets in the DIN connector.  My cable on the 5020 has pins.

Mike





Posted By: Sweekster
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 4:44 PM
That's how my amp is. There is a DIN plug connected to the amp that has an 8 pin female (sockets) end on it. I'll check later on when I get home and let you know what model number it is.

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Duane...

If you think you're confused, imagine how you feel.   posted_image




Posted By: Sweekster
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 9:18 PM
beady] wrote:

p>5020, but I can't gaurantee it'll be the same for your amp.

Look on your amp and see if the connector on the amp has pins or sockets in the DIN connector.  My cable on the 5020 has pins.

Mike


Well, I just got in and we have the same amp.  KAC-5020.  If you know the  pin out numbers and what they are I should be able to make a new RCA input for it.  I was able to get an unsed DIN cable from work.  Any other suggestions would be appreciated.



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Duane...

If you think you're confused, imagine how you feel.   posted_image




Posted By: Sweekster
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 9:19 PM

here's a pic of it



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Duane...

If you think you're confused, imagine how you feel.   posted_image




Posted By: beady
Date Posted: August 11, 2004 at 10:21 PM

It's 20 Watts X 2 as far as the information I can find on it online.  I think I was told it was 25 X 2 when I bought it back in 1990.

I have the mating connector with the RCA's and remote on cable up under the dash.  Tomorrow I'll take my DVM out and tell you which pins are which.

Mike





Posted By: beady
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 1:13 PM

posted_image

OK, here is a pic of what you need.  Just for posterity I'll makea  verbal desrciption so when the pic is gone someone can still use this info.

Looking into the connector there are 5 pins.  Hold the connector so that the the pins make an "frown".  Pin @ 9 o'clock is remote turn on lead, pin @ 10 o'clock is blank, pin at 12 o'clock is a common pin going to both shields of the RCA cables, pin @ 2 o'clock is RED center RCA, pin at 3 o'clock is BLACK center RCA.

That should do it for you I think.  Let me know how the amp does, it's been so long since I've used mine.  I might decide to do something with it if it's halfway decent.

Mike





Posted By: Sweekster
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 2:07 PM
Cool ....thanks....I'll let you know how it goes. So the other 3 pins are not used for anything? I'll just have to try it out. The worst I can do is kill the amp. Thanks again. i'll let you know how it turns out.

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Duane...

If you think you're confused, imagine how you feel.   posted_image




Posted By: beady
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 2:23 PM

Sweekster wrote:

Cool ....thanks....I'll let you know how it goes. So the other 3 pins are not used for anything? I'll just have to try it out. The worst I can do is kill the amp. Thanks again. i'll let you know how it turns out.

I was only looking at the mating connector that is NOT part of the amp.  It is the connector that you plug into the amp and it has RCA's and a remote on wire.  It only had 5 pins.  I'm guessing the other pins would be if you hade a multi-channel amp or something. 

Speaking of which, I gave you the pins locations for the DIN connector you want to make.  The pins will me mirror image on the amp if you see what I mean.

Mike





Posted By: Sweekster
Date Posted: August 12, 2004 at 2:29 PM
Yeah I see exactly what you mean. I think I can make a new connect pretty easy. I'll try it this weekend and let you know you how it does on my test bench. If anything it could be a pretty good center channel or tweeter amp.

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Duane...

If you think you're confused, imagine how you feel.   posted_image





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