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Topic: xm vs sirius please pipe in!

Posted By: dudek38
Subject: xm vs sirius please pipe in!
Date Posted: September 07, 2004 at 10:02 PM

my opinion of both are very different and i was wondering how others felt. i feel as if sirius is the better company. the programming is better and customer service is top notch. i find myself switching channels all the time with xm when i can leave sirius on one channel for a while. just my opinion. any others out there?

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owner of
Motion Marine & Car Audio
the florida keys



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Posted By: Esco1977
Date Posted: September 07, 2004 at 10:35 PM
opie and anthony oct.4th :-)   thats all i gotta say!!!!!  xm rocks




Posted By: dudek38
Date Posted: September 07, 2004 at 10:42 PM
i need opinions from people who have listened to both.

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owner of
Motion Marine & Car Audio
the florida keys




Posted By: raydawg357
Date Posted: September 08, 2004 at 9:56 AM
I have listened  and installed both.  IMO, I like XM better  Delphi Commander has even came out with a unit that will give any satellite ready unit (XM  or Sirius) a dedicated XM connection.

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Do it right the first time




Posted By: siezmik
Date Posted: September 08, 2004 at 3:40 PM

I've had both.  I started out with XM and have only recently moved to Sirius.  I enjoyed XM (favorite stations were Squizz and Boneyard) and since I traveled frequently I listened to it quite often.  Since that time the amount of traveling I do has gone done by quite a bit and I contemplated killing off my satellite radio subscription altogether.  Then Dish Network started offering Sirius stations to their subscribers and I found that I enjoyed quite a few of the stations Sirius offered (to my surprise as I was a dedicated XM fan).  What sold me on Sirius though was the fact that I can listen to their streaming media stations over the web while I'm at work for free as part of my normal monthly subscription.  So even though I don't travel as much, I can still utilize my monthly subscription and maximize my listening.  Keep in mind that the streaming media quality isn't as high as the normal satellite signal quality, but it's good enough for casual listening at work.  True, Sirius' monthly fee is higher than XM's, but three dollars more per month is pretty negligible and Sirius doesn't have "premium" stations that require an extra fee to listen to (so far at least).

For the technical aspects of the systems, I found that both seemed equally good when it came to sound quality and signal reception.  Sirius claims that their signal reception is better since they have three satellites in geosynchronous orbit (as opposed to XM's two satellites in geostationary orbit) but it never seemed to make much of a difference in normal operation.  Both stations offer repeaters in larger cities so you can maintain reception even when your vehicle can't get a good view of the sky (like driving through downtown Chicago).  One aspect of XM that I disliked was the 16-character limitation for song titles/artist names.  If it doesn't fit it gets truncated.

In looking at their hardware it's a toss-up in my book.  It used to be that Sirius seemed to have more "cutting edge" equipment but now they seem to be on equal footing.  Lots of options depending on what you're looking for.  I hear that XM is even coming out with a portable unit that you can carry with you and I haven't heard anything of the sort for Sirius.

In a lot of ways it comes down to programming and your listening habits.  You almost have to listen to both to see what stations play the type of music that helps you get your groove on and go from there.  You also need to decide where and when you listen to the radio the most.  If you'r ein your car most of the time and rarely listen at home, then the extra benefit of a Sirius subscription won't do you much good.

Hope this helps.





Posted By: dudek38
Date Posted: September 08, 2004 at 9:00 PM
interesting. sirius' online streaming is the best! thats a major option over xm.

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owner of
Motion Marine & Car Audio
the florida keys




Posted By: NINsane18
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 7:44 PM
I have had Sirius for about a year, and like it alot better that XM. It is a buck or two more, but well worth it. I agree with dudek38 on XM, when i had it for a few months, I was always switching around. Not having commercials is well worth the subscription. After you have had satellite radio, turn it to the local radio station, and notice the amount of boring bogus commercials you have to listen to.

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Tim-May!




Posted By: rknj01
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 9:12 PM
i like sirius' programming better, but their hardware sucks ass (excluding dedicated units). especially those gigantic antennas.




Posted By: IMDiesel
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 11:37 PM

I believe it depends on what you choose to listen to. Sirius kicks a$$ if you like national sports, i.e. NFL, NBA ,NHL.  Xm has a dedicated nascar channel. And If you happen to be a "christian rocker" xm has a few stations. sirius has only one.  On another note if you follow the stocks xm,since launching 1st owns the market with close to 3 million listeners,and stock is usually around $25.00  while sirius is bearing down on 600,000, at $2-3.00 a share. But, I own stock in both  however and when sirius reaches 1 million listeners i think their stock is gonna jump cause people will start to believe they'll be a success. i like both for different reasons but sirius' units  aredont compare to xm in size, installation, and most of all appearance.

In the end it's always up to you. ..... just my 2 cent$



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-"There was nothing wrong with it, 'till that no talent ass clown started making records and winning Grammys




Posted By: Francious70
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 11:47 PM
My dad had Sirius in his old truck, and it was good, but didn't have many music stations I liked. Now he has a new truck, and XM. I like their selection of music better.

Paul




Posted By: mobile1
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 1:03 AM

FACTION that station kicks major a$$. Sirius-ly   (sorry i had to)





Posted By: russ lund
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 12:10 PM
Sirius has a better signal footprint than xm(if your in the midwest).Better sound .I like the hardware from Kenwood and JVC.As for antenna size yhat has shrunk with the 2nd generation units.

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BigDog




Posted By: Leif
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 7:06 PM
I'm surprised noone has touched on the issue of lossy data compression.

Both Sirius and XM use very low bitrate data streams from the satellite. Sure, the entire stream from the satellite is several megabits per second, but divided onto all the different channels you end up with around 50 kbits per music station, much less for talk stations.

XM uses the AAC codec with SBR. (Spectral band replication) from Coding Technologies.

Sirius uses the PAC codec from Lucent.

Initially, the codecs were comparable quality, but XM just simply licensed the codec, while Sirius is working closely with Lucent to make continuous improvements.

So, while XM is as it is and will stay that way, Sirius will sound better and better as they make improvements to the encoder.

So, on an Audio Quality basis alone, I would definitely recommend Sirius above XM.

///Leif




Posted By: dudek38
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 8:38 PM
thats very interesting leif. i would never have thought of that....

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owner of
Motion Marine & Car Audio
the florida keys




Posted By: stavy customs1
Date Posted: September 15, 2004 at 11:23 PM
At best buy when i sell satellite radio i always sell sirius because i have it and it kicks xms ass. Their stock is failing because they are pumping so much money into their listeners and what they want to hear. Give a year and theyll have very high stocks. When it comes to music and programming it blows xm out of the water. I always tell the xm rep that xm has alot of catching up to do and its true at our store for every 4 siriuses that go out maybe 1 xm will go out....





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