Truck Sub System
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Printed Date: May 02, 2024 at 4:47 PM
Topic: Truck Sub System
Posted By: dustinova
Subject: Truck Sub System
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 2:32 PM
I'm looking to put a little bass in my 1990 Chevy 1500 Regular Cab Pickup. I've been reading topics on this site about subs, and most people are suggesting putting multiple subs that are a minimum of 10 inches powered by huge amounts of power in their cars. I'm thinking going that route would be too much for me. I have a Clarion DXZ435 head unit, and 4 pioneer 4" speakers. The highs and mids sound perfectly fine for what I want, but there is a big lack of bass. I was thinking 1 8" sub, maybe an MTX Thunder4500, or a Kicker Comp C8, both with 30-100 watts rms, and getting a 100 watt amp to power it. Space is limited, as I want it to go behind the bench seat without having to move the seat up too far (I'm a pretty big guy). What do you guys think? Should I sacrafice some more space and get a 10" sub with a bigger amp? My musical tastes are all over the board, and constantly changing. Thanks for the help.
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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 3:00 PM
If your not already a bass freak, , then you obviously werent to interested in it much in the first place, , ,so possibly a good choice for you would to be a really good 8" sub with 100 or so watts rms, , ,or a smaller 10" sub with 100-150rms. Both are enough to shake your mirrors and give you a back massage, , but mostly will fill in for what those 4" speakers can't do. Anything more would be too much since your not asking for ground shaking bass. Give us a price range and we can help you out. ------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 3:08 PM
The mounting depth of the two speakers is about the same. The 10" sub has a larger surface area to move more air. Choose a 10" sub that works in a small sealed box and build the box to fit behind the seat. Amplify this sub with no more than 20w rms of power. If you do not have a dedicated sub preout with level control on the cd player, choose an amplifier that has this as an option. This is a separate and indipendent volume control strictly for the sub. Too much bass, turn the bass volume down, not enough, turn it up. This is done on the separate control knob, not on the bass setting on the cd player which affects all speakers in the system (bad thing).
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Posted By: dustinova
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 3:09 PM
Thanks Alpine. I'm looking to spend around $300 for the sub, amp, box, and all wiring. If it costs a little more, I'm sure I can swing it. Would the MTX or Kicker be ok subs for this application? I found them both at crutchfield's website. Also, does anyone know of anywhere in or around Portland, OR where I could hear one or both of these subs in person? I tried Best Buy, but they didn't seem to know what they were talking about (guy tried to sell me 2 12" Kicker Solobarics and an amp that could have powered a small country).
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 3:11 PM
Don't go to the big box butcher, go to the guy who is a specialty retailer and knows wtf he is talking about. Spend your $ with this guy and not some online nobody.
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Posted By: dustinova
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 3:12 PM
Thanks Rob. Only 20 watts? That even seems low for me. Don't get me wrong, I do want to be able to feel the sub, and get a decent amount of volume out of it. I just don't want to be one of those guys that you can hear coming 10 blocks away.
Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 3:26 PM
Where is my edit button gone  make that 200w rms. ------------- Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 4:08 PM
haha, i was wondering about that 20 rms. Anyways, , definately check out your local shops, you may spend $20 more, ,but you will get that greeting everytime you come back, you will get the bend over backwards service that you just can't get over the phone. You can definately find a system in the $300 range, , a box should run you $60-$80, sub $75-$120, and amp $150 and up , , expect maybe $400 all said and done. Tell them your situation like you told us, , make it clear you want something to fill in and not take much room in the 10" size. They should show you box sizes, , then you decide the sub based on the box size you chose, , and the amp will be decided last for what will best suit the sub. They will sell you an amp install kit, , probably $40, and if your knoledgable enough you can install it yourself with our help, , or you can get it done, with a warranty for a small service price, , probably around $60. ------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.
Posted By: dustinova
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 4:39 PM
Thanks again Alpine. All this info has been very helpfull. Now I just need to find where I can go around here to get good service, and listen to a few different setups. I've done a few systems before, but space was never an issue. I'll post when I get the stuff and install it.
Posted By: ilvwhtgrls
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 5:02 PM
dustinova wrote:
Thanks Alpine. I'm looking to spend around $300 for the sub, amp, box, and all wiring. If it costs a little more, I'm sure I can swing it. Would the MTX or Kicker be ok subs for this application? I found them both at crutchfield's website. Also, does anyone know of anywhere in or around Portland, OR where I could hear one or both of these subs in person? I tried Best Buy, but they didn't seem to know what they were talking about (guy tried to sell me 2 12" Kicker Solobarics and an amp that could have powered a small country).
Best Buy doesn't carry kicker. Kinda odd for someone to recommend something they dont sell... ------------- Eye am so re todd did.
Posted By: dustinova
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 5:29 PM
He said that's what he had in his car. He was trying to sell me the amp.
Posted By: shoelesscraig
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 5:54 PM
I had a little Rockford Fosgate 10" sub in a small pickup a few years back. Had a little RF amp on it too. Sounded great. I think it was their "Z" series (100 watts RMS, 200 watts peak). It did exactly what you said you want, bass you can feel, but not that hear you down the block kind of bass. My truck had 4" speakers in the front and 4 X 10" in the back, and it definitely helped out. Got them at Best Buy, sub was around $90, box was small (fit behind the seat of a Chevy S-10, so I know it'll fit in yours) and the box cost like $70 bucks, the amp was just over a $100 I think. If you want a great "moderate" system for not much money, it's the way to go. Course, there are other brands too, I just like Rockford personally.
Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 6:19 PM
Here is just a suggested setup. I agree with what everyone else has said about going to a local dealer and not best buy also. Rockford Fosgate P1, Alpine MRP-T220 2 channel amp, and 10" truck box. -------------
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: September 14, 2004 at 7:47 PM
I have to throw in my 2 cents about those RF P1's. I think they were spawned by saintin himself for the primary purpose of making my life on this earth a living hell and destroy what little confidence I had left in RF's quality control. I cant even count how many of these new subs both p1 and p2's that I have had come back due to failure in craftmenship. Cones that crack, surrounds that crack, surrounds that just let go of the cone. Its totally rediculous. Just one big damn service issure. If some one comes in looking at the new Rockford subs I will sell them a pioneer for the same price, and they sound better and dont fall apart, or if they wanna spend a little more money I will get them into an MTX driver which I have no problem throwing my entire weight behind (and Im a heavy guy). I just cannot recomend any of these RF drivers to anyone. I only have experience with the p1 and p2 but based on their preformance I wont trust any of their speakers this year. The amps have been great though. My biggest seller and havent had a problem with a single one yet.
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