trying to get a system together
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Topic: trying to get a system together
Posted By: dubosv11
Subject: trying to get a system together
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 6:50 PM
Well, I have a dialy driver, going to school, gym, etc so I spend a lot of time in my vehicle, I'll have a job in the next few months, but until then I would like to add some things so I can enjoy music in my van...
Anywho, right now I hav a broken Head Unit in there, along with a Portable CD Player hooked in to it...no lows, some cheapy speakers...
I want to add components, a head unit, and some subs...
my budget is about $1000-$1200...
I'm looking for maybe two subs, something to sound good and tide me over for the next couple of months until I get a job...
Any recommendations kick ***...thanks...
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Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 8:04 PM
Go to crutchfield.com and see what speakers fit your van. buy some of those they're at a decent price. As far as subs, just look through this forum to see what people say and decide from there.
Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 9:19 PM
maybe look towards the lines of alpine or jl with some of the lower lines you could reach this budget
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Posted By: customsuburb
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 9:39 PM
What make and model of van do you own? Here is an example of an SQ system that would get plenty loud also (assuming you have 6.5"front speakers): Alpine 6.5" Type S components up front Blaupunkt Monte Carlo headunit Alpine 2 channel amp (for front speakers). Infinity Kappa 10" subs MTX 421D mono amp. Add a box and wiring kit in and you will be at about $1100. -------------
Posted By: dubosv11
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 10:50 PM
a 1993 Dodge Caravan, the biggest I can fit in my dash location is 5.25 (5 1/4)...
Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 11:11 PM
Size is never a problem w/ fiberglass (for the 5.25")  . The infinity kappas ROCK for the price. I would put money on it that there are few subs that compete w/ that price for that quality. i've got one myself and am lookin at another. Drop that bad boy(s) in a sealed .75 cu ft box hook two of them up to a 500-600 watt amp (I like MTX or JL) and play away for the bass. If you want to go over budget I would also recomend the Kicker Solo barics (or the Comp VR's are nice also). Components I would recomend JL, Polk Momo, or Infinity again. If you are good with the budget $1000 can buy a really nice system. Make a kick @$$ ride. But this is also a very opinionated topic also. Everyone can tell you something different.
Posted By: /R7
Date Posted: September 21, 2004 at 11:42 PM
for fronts, as boxmaker said, everyone can tell you something different.
but i've been happy with my 5 1/4 Phoenix Gold Ti Elites, plenty loud, and im only giving them 50watts (rated at 250rms) put those in your front, and work on your bass from there.
my only suggestion is if you can afford fiberglass, or modding the van, go with 6.5's i think they would offer more mid-bass that you would need in addition to the bass coming from the sub.
and for subs, i would have to agree with boxmaker again, 500-600watts should be plenty to hold you through the summer. i heard some ultimate subs, running on a pioneer deck, they seemed inexpensive in comparison to other brands, and when heard on a alpine setup with an alpine deck, i much preferred the sound from the ultimates.
anyway hth
HF :-)
Posted By: dubosv11
Date Posted: September 22, 2004 at 5:26 AM
I'm thinking either 300 Watts going to 1 JL 12W3v2, or 600 Watts going to 1 Kicker, or 600 Watts going to 2 10 or 12" Infinity Subs?
1 or 2 Subs? I don't want to have to upgrade the alternator...Opinions welcome.
On the Midrange...I REALLY want to use a pair of 6.5's, heres the problem, Kick Panels aren't really an option, because I'm tall and my leg would block the driver side sound (at least I think)...plus, it might be difficult getting around the hood lever and such...
Is there another way I can mount them? I have Fiberglass and wood, just no idea on where to mount them...
Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: September 22, 2004 at 6:37 AM
Look into the 10w6v2's also. Those are nice but can (actually do, but check on ebay) run more than you might want to pay right now. If you're runnin around 600 watts no matter how many subs you have you shouldn't need to upgrade the alternator. But as far as what you have said dubosv11, JL, Kicker, and Infinity are all great brands to go with. What kind of kicker? The 10" L5 Solo is nice along w/ the 12. Make sure when you get your amp that you look into it. Some companies (not to mention any names, kicker) do have a hefty price tag for the type of amp. Yeah they might be good and pretty and clean, but I've also hard many many other types for cheaper prices that sound just as good. As far as you're 6.5", kick panels are probably you're best bet. Do you have anything under you're hu and above the hump for the tranny (like a console)? If not think about makin an enclosure to aim two 6.5 out toward the driver and passenger. No even whith your leg "blocking" the kick panel you should still get a good sound out of them. Hey /r7 where did you get your Phoenix Golds? I'm wanting to put ing some upgraded 6 x 9 in my rear deck and want something that handels power if I hook it up to an amp.
Posted By: dubosv11
Date Posted: September 22, 2004 at 6:06 PM
I was thinking of adding some Midbass to my doors?
Can you relocate a manual window crank?
Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: September 22, 2004 at 6:49 PM
You can roll the windows up and take out the whole crank assembly. In fact, you can secure the window in place with a 2X3 and bolts, and take out everything below it. But you pay when it comes time to drive thru the late night window. But other than that, which you should forget you ever asked...about the limit of power before you need to start upgrading alternator and such. 600 watts for sub and 200 watts for fronts, total 800, is about at the limit of most EOM alts. You want more, then you go for the big upgrades. ------------- Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: dubosv11
Date Posted: September 22, 2004 at 8:38 PM
Hrmmm, I don't want to remove the whole crank system, just maybe relocate it further up, because it's near the bottom of the door for whatever reason...  Just like that...
Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: September 22, 2004 at 8:42 PM
First off I drive a 89 s-10 and stand 6 foot 2 and have no problem with the sound getting around my legs. And my seat is also moved up because I have a friggin 9 cubic foot sub wall behind me. I think you have gotten plenty of good recomendations on here for your equipment, and if you wanna build on to your door you dont have to move the window crank. Just build the pods so the top is almost flush with the door and the pod then slants out so your speaker will have an upward mounting position, which is what you want anyways. Shouldnt be much of a problem.
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Posted By: dubosv11
Date Posted: September 22, 2004 at 10:18 PM
ok then, scratch the mid-bass for right now, I figure I can always install the 6.5 mids in my door if the kick panels don't seem right...
And go with a couple of subs getting 600 Watts.
Maybe this...
1 Pair of Infinity Kappa 60.5cs Component Sets
(2) Infinity Kappa 120.3DVC Subs
(1) Sony CDX-M850MP Headunit
I was looking at a Rockford Fosgate 550/1 or something similar for the Sub Amp...and something like an MTX that puts out 85/2 for the fronts...what do you guys think?
And would it be beneficial to get some 6x9's for the rear hatch (factory location)?
Oh, one more question, 10 vs 12...Since I have the 6 1/2's up front, will that take care of a lot of midbass, or should I stick two 10's for sub's? to kinda bridge the midbass gap?
Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: September 23, 2004 at 10:38 AM
Good choice on infinity (got a pair myself, 5.25 version). Kappa subs are nice. The choice of 10 vs 12 is always in debate. In the end it's up to you. Two tens sound good and will hit "louder" than one twelve of the same type. All depends. I know that Sony makes some decent hu. Don't perticularly know bout that one though. 6 x 9's are an excellent bridge for that sub and 6.5" area. Look into a nice set (Polk, JL, or Infinity). The will give you some bass also. Rockford's are good amps now, they had this bad spell for a few years, but from what I've heard (people and the amp's themselves) they are much better, but kinda expensive. I like MTX and there are quite a few guys on here that have recomended that to others. Kicker makes a good mono sub amp. Also Alpine is a good company, not sure bout the mono amps, but... Look around, listen to other guys systems, and do your research before you make the final decision (you will appreciate it later). Good luck and keep us posted.
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