changing from 12’’ to 10’’ subs
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Topic: changing from 12’’ to 10’’ subs
Posted By: wheelerdr
Subject: changing from 12’’ to 10’’ subs
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 7:05 AM
I have 2 memphis power reference 12" dvc subs in a slot ported box, this is to big for my new truck. Im tired of removing the box when the family needs a ride. I need help with 2 10" dvc subs that will not break the bank. and will sound as good as the 2 12" subs. My amp is a kenwood exceleron 811D 1000 watts at 1 ohm. thanks
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Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 8:23 AM
Drop the amp (I've got a kenwood amp and it fried my sub, any high volume and the amp would start clipping) then get a set of Infinity Kappa (or Kappa perfects if you can afford) 10" subs. Hook those (the Kappas) up to a 500 watt amp (MTX is a good choice). Make a sealed box and drop them in there. All set! Well that's my recomendation. I've got one Kappa 10" sealed w/ 200ish watts running to it and it hits. Those subs are great for the price and the everyday listener.
Posted By: wheelerdr
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 8:40 AM
Well, I like the amp I only have it 1/4 on the gain and it drives the heck out of my memphis 12's. When I hae the doors closed, My windows on my extended cab come out about 1/2 inch. I just need great 10" subs
Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 10:43 AM
What's the power at 2 (or 4) ohms? I would still go with the infinitys. Great sub, great performance, great price.
Posted By: wheelerdr
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 10:55 AM
power @ 4ohm is 400rms and @ 2 ohm is 800 rms. I had some alpine sws dvc at one time and they hit pretty hard, anything that will top that will be great
Posted By: pimpincavy
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 11:09 AM
Those kenwood excelon amps are damn good. My friend has a 500W rms one running his two 12" memphis subs. The gain and bass bost are below 1/4 and you can hear him coming a block away. Damn good amp.
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Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 11:16 AM
Yeah pick up two 10" Kappa (or kappa perfect) 4ohm DVC wire in parallel and rock it. The subs need like .7 cu ft so two should fit under a seat of a truck. Might have to be custom to the truck but it can be done.
Posted By: wheelerdr
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 4:48 PM
Yea, The kenwood amps are great thanks, I Have come up with either Infinity perfect or Alpine typr R,Maybe Rockford Fosgate Punch stage 3, I have already made 2 seperate boxes, was kinda hard. I thinking about doing a fiberglass box under the seats( Im still reading up on the procedures though). out of these subs mentioned . Are the infinity's still best.
Posted By: heavilymedicate
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 5:40 PM
I would take the Infinity's out of the three mentioned. You might look into a JL w3v2, you may get a slightly better deal on them then the Infinity's. However, if the cost for the w3v2's and the Kappa Perfects is the same, id go with the Kappa's, if its w3v2 vs. Kappa (not perfect) its a wash but id buy the JL out of brand loyalty. I am a JL guy, i bias so sue me. Why not trash the 2 sub idea and just go with a single 12w6v2? Great SQ, Great SPL, Just a great sub, dont know about the mounting depth you have to work with though. Have you considered a Stealth box? What kind of ride do you have? Consider one larger box, and one great sub. https://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/12w6v2.html# I have heard those Memphis subs once, maybe twice, and remember them being good for a sub-100 dollar sub. But I would rank anything that has been mentioned so far better then those in terms of SQ.
Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 5:51 PM
alpines are good. a previous post talked about it. someone said the alpines are better ported. I wouldn't touch the Rockford's b/c they've more or less lost their good rep. Both infinity's or alpines are good. (I would go with the infinities myself).
Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 5:55 PM
or you could consider one quality sub like a jl w6v2 or eclipse aluminum, either one of these would normaly put your standard 2 10's to shame also meets to your amp well
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Posted By: wheelerdr
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 5:56 PM
I don't know about memphis being just par. an JL audio dealer her and I have hear lots of cars at our hangout and with my memphis 12 there is only a few out there with jl audio that can beat my set up, and they have jlw6's These subs are 250 rms and 350 peak. and Im driving them with a 1000 watts, These subs laugh at that and keep on rocking. the problem is that My memphis dealer took off on us and the closes on in alaska is about 600 miles away from me. so I need something I can get online . Im going with the infinity 10" II think. I have also heard Kenwood excelon db10 are great 1200 watt max. Have you heard anything about the kenwood Subs. I have heard they are the best sounding subs. THat is from our rockford dealer.
Posted By: wheelerdr
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 6:02 PM
Im not sure about these memphis being bottom line. At out hangout we most of them use jl subs and I blow them away all night long except jlW6's That is a beast. but my subs now are 250 rms and 350 peak I drive them at 1000 watts and not a problem the subs take it and press on. the problem is that my memphis dealer is gon( He showed up and after his largest shipment of memphis products he took off with all of it and left) Memphis tech support said that they cannot find him, and they will not support another dealer in alaska! what about kenwood excelon Subs I have heard they are one of the best sounding subs ( from our rockford dealer) he would rather sale me kenwood than rockford. My amp is a kenwood excelon 1000 watt amp.
Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 6:09 PM
The w6v2 probably won't fit under a truck seat. Mounting depth plus a few inches isn't going to happen (i think). Memphis is nice stuff. The 2 10w3v2 are good, about the same price as the kappa perfect. The JL handles a little more power and probably has some better sq. But you can get a kappa perfect off the net w/ a waranty, you can't do that w/ a JL. sucks. wheelerdr you've got how many watts driving how many subs? If those subs had 1000 watts driving a 12 they would be fried as an egg on a tin roof. Four 12 yeah, two..... maybe. And yeah a w6v2 rips a lot of subs a new hole.
Posted By: wheelerdr
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 7:51 PM
I have a kenwood excelon 811d pushing 2 memphis dvc 12's 4+4 ohm, wired in at 1 ohm 1000Watts the subs excursion comes out so far that I had to remove the grills because the subwoofer was hitting the girlls.
Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: October 25, 2004 at 8:08 PM
I dont see how power reference stuff would beat w6's I have never seen it done with the right box and the right amount of power, thats just me though
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2009 0-1000 Trunk WR 154.0DB 2009 1001+ Trunk WR
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