Remote turn on/speaker wires
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Forum Name: Car Audio
Forum Discription: Car Stereos, Amplifiers, Crossovers, Processors, Speakers, Subwoofers, etc.
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Topic: Remote turn on/speaker wires
Posted By: Thuan
Subject: Remote turn on/speaker wires
Date Posted: November 02, 2004 at 2:17 AM
I know I'm supposed to run my power wire on seperate sides of my car but how about RCA's, remote turn on and speaker wires....can they be ran together? ------------- Thuan
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Posted By: raydawg357
Date Posted: November 02, 2004 at 7:12 AM
Yes, you can run the RCA, remote turn-on and speaker wires together. The remote turn-on doesn't carry enough current to produce engine noise.
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Do it right the first time
Posted By: chevyman26
Date Posted: November 02, 2004 at 8:23 AM
yea, but if you are already in the process of running wires and if it isn't much more work, you might as well run the remote wire along the power wire. Can never be too careful, ya know. lol. Besides, if the power and speaker connections are on opposite ends of the amp, depending on your install, you may want the power and remote wires running in from the same way. Just a thought. Not trying to contradict or anything as raydawg is right - not enough current, but like I say, can never be too careful.
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Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 12:27 AM
my remote lead from the deck is bad so i need to make a new on n off switch for the amp (remote).i want to mount a lighted toggle switch in place of the ashtray in the front counsel.it had 3 leaads on the back.any ideas on hooking this up?im just lookin for suggestions.could i get power from the old ashtray light?could i possible get really simple and splice a old ciggerett adapter to the toggle switch for power?any ideas please for finding a source of power?
Posted By: raydawg357
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 7:08 AM
I would tap into the switched power from your radio. On some vehicles, the cigarette lighter is 12V constant and not switched
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Do it right the first time
Posted By: chris_h
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 8:59 AM
You would want to tap into the switched power, don't put a toggle on a line that always has power like your lighter. If you did this, you'd have to remember to switch your toggle 'off' every time you left you car, or your batt would die. Is your remote wire any good further in your dash somewhere? It's ideal
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When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 12:35 PM
well my stero has to manually turned off each time as well.i had to rig that to lolpontiac with all the steeringwheel controls and i had to cut all the wires from the factory deck and go from there.for the deck ihave my solid yellow and red goin to the red for the battery.if i run a wire into these for a power for the toggle would the toggle then turn off as when i turned off the stero?my decks in ruff shape kinda lol its a pioneer dph 4500.i think some of the soders inside the deck are bad as the left channels dont work and my rcas for the low output make the stero cut out as well.im suppose if i get the ignition wire tied into my solid yellow and red would power the stero with the ignition on n off?what else would be some good sources of power? where do i find the switched power and how would i hook that up as i said above i turn it off manually everytime lol? help help my cars torn apart and waiting for its bandaids
Posted By: chris_h
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 12:44 PM
well my first recommendation would be buy a new deck, but if you can't do that... Did you run your yellow remote wire for this deck directly to the battery because you couldn't find the remote wire you cut from the factory deck? I just didn't quite understand what you meant. Are these wires directly from your battery to your deck fused in line? If you get the ignition wire, you need to hook up the yellow (remote) wire only to this. The red (power) wire can go directly to your battery, with a fuse. ------------- When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 12:48 PM
ahhh ok i see what your sayin yes the red wire from the deck has a fuse and is goin to the red battery aka power wire and i put the yellow wire into that as well .so its like a 2 in 1 deal the 2 wires from the back of the deck and spliced into the red power from the dash.so if i figure what the igition wire was from the old factory deck i just hook up the remote yellow wire from the deck to this?
Posted By: chris_h
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 12:52 PM
exactly, let us know if you figure it out. ------------- When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 1:02 PM
well if i find the iginition wire and splice that to yellow then i could run another wire to the toggle switch then right for the remote wire setup for the amp??
Posted By: chris_h
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 1:08 PM
yes you can do that also. So you're looking to be able to turn the amp on or off manually, but have the deck turn on and off by the ignition?
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When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 1:15 PM
that would be great i just have to turn the stero off manually already b ut i was asuming that if it turned the stero off automatically when ya turned the car off it would kill the poweer to the toggle switch
Posted By: chris_h
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 1:56 PM
okay, it will kill the power to the toggle switch if your toggle switch is wired with the ignition wire. this way when the car is on, the toggle will have power to turn the amp on or off, and when the car is off it won't have power at all. so just make sure the toggle uses the ignition wire
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When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 6:57 PM
anyone else have any other ideas on this? finding a power source? thanks for the help chris.ill have to wait till tomorrow to buy a switch
Posted By: chris_h
Date Posted: November 30, 2004 at 7:00 PM
No problem... let us know how this turns out
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When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 01, 2004 at 8:45 PM
would the igintion wire supply power?
Posted By: chris_h
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 11:17 AM
Do you mean the main power for your amp? Your remote wire isnt the right gauge to do this. Power for your amp should be between 4 and 8 gauge, and a remote turn-on wire for an amp is usually 18 gauge. ------------- When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 6:38 PM
ok i just took a volt tester and got a 8v from the remote slot from the back of the deck.the wires are still connected i just poked inth to connector.should it read 12?this reader i got is a multipul one.it has ohm - x1k, dc v, ac v, dc mA.i have the knob on ohm xik setting and thats the only one making it read anythin.on the meter itself it only says ac10v.well i plugged in a cigarrett lighter adapter and tested the plug it went up up ac10v but when i tested the remote connector it only read 8.the remote still aint workin and i cant get a read on the suppsent igintion wire.thers a wire i get a read of ac10v but it the hanes amnual it reads for the old factory deck the light illimuation.its a 95 pontiac.anyone help asap my car is torn apart
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 6:40 PM
or how about tappin the remote wire inth to light ill for the deck or i got a read from another one to.id just go get a 12v reader but my car is torn apart tso im stuck
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 6:49 PM
ok i just checked everything the remote wire goininto the amp the + and - i got a read from all but it still wont turn on why
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 7:00 PM
ok the manual said tis because im not get enough juice 10.5 and 15.5.could i tap inti the light ill wire or anything else i get a over 10v read from?
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 7:30 PM
ok i just ran more power to the remote and it still doesnt work im guessing now that the amp went bad :(
Posted By: daze
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 8:28 PM
Ok I would like to clear a few things up. Remote wire can induce voltage on to RCA cables (most are decently sheilded but some people like to go cheap and by radio shack ones). The only time I would be worried about it, would be if I was doing a 4 channel amp. You will not hear engine noise thru a sub amp with the low pass filter on. with that said, In vehicles you wanna test for DC (direct current) so that would be Vdc. It sounds like you already cut off the factory harness, so you need wire colors or to test each wire. One wire will supply 12v DC all the time that is the wire that goes to the yellow wire on the radio harness (constant or memory), then there will be one that has 12v DC only when the car is on (make sure you really test this wire, it can be a dimmer wire so turn the headlight on and off while testing it, if its not a dimmer wire it will not change voltage at all) this wire will connect to the red wire on the radio harness, then you obviously have a ground, which I have even seen dimmers being negative (ground) as well, so just like the manual for the radio suggests, i would run my own ground wire as well (make sure paint is completly removed where it is and it is sinny to ensure a proper ground). now for the remote, it can be your on the wrong volt scale cuz you labeled it Vac or you could have a improper ground on your meeter, which will give you an inacurate ground. But running it off an ignition source is not a bad idea, so tie it on the red wire from the radio harness to your toggle switch. That way you will be able to turn it off at any point and it will still turn off with the car. If you cannot seem to figure out the proper wire colors then you can go to RS Strause, PEP Boys, autozone..... whatever and get whats called an add a circuit. Basically this a fuse with an extra fuse in it so you can plug it into the fuse box. in this case you would pull out the radio fuse inside the car and plug that in and run a wire to the red wire on the radio harness and keep the yellow where it is currently connected
Posted By: daze
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 8:30 PM
what were the reading on the + of the amp ?
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 10:20 PM
oh man i finally got it lol.i found the radio remote wire and just wired that into the amp.the original remote wire was only givin me 8v in which i needed 10.5 to 15.5.on this remote wire should i run a fuse into this line as well just for a amp/car protection?and should the fuse be in the wired in part before the toggle switch or in between the toggle and the amp?i havent wqired in the toggle yet but will in a few days.havent figured out how to make a mount for it yet.im going to use the ashtray spot.i was thinking taking a chucnk of 2x4 and cut it into shape.any ideas on that?or somekind of plastic mold to protect the leads on the baclk of the toggle switch.any suggestions.and thanks for the help daze
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 10:23 PM
the + of the amp was all good to i had a bad ground goin on the amp.fixed that and did the new wire all good now.well except for the mount idea.or i was thinkin just drill a hole in the side of the middle counsel but i was afaraid of hitting it.maybe if i got a push button but want a lighted one for show lol and to know theres power goin back there
Posted By: daze
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 10:25 PM
i would put the fuse before the toggle. You can find whats called abs and it is thin plastic that is easy to cut and bend with a blow drier or heat gun if you need to curve it. to protect the back of the switch, i would just get a peice of foam and cut a little gully in it smaller than the switch an push it on and make it fit the rest of the way so its pressure fitted
Posted By: daze
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 10:26 PM
well if you cant see or touch the back, DONT DRILL !
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 10:48 PM
well the switch that i bought is a duck bill one or a flipper typre .i suppose if i buy a rocker switch that lit up i wouldnt have to worry about breakin it as much.and whats the abs stuff ive never heard of that before.do you have a weblink to a picture of it?
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 10:49 PM
im still tryin to find a picture of the center counsel of the 95 pontiac grand prix to show what iwas talkin about for the ashtray slot
Posted By: Mr.toadman
Date Posted: December 02, 2004 at 11:02 PM
i have the ashtray still but was afraid that the metal might get to the terminals.its shaped like the end of a wood 2x4 but hollowed out with a all around rim to hold it in place.or maybe a plastic block cut to the shape as well i have the bits to do it.
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