I need fronts that are indestructible
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Topic: I need fronts that are indestructible
Posted By: quick4321
Subject: I need fronts that are indestructible
Date Posted: November 10, 2004 at 11:25 PM
Well, my wife blew up the set of PCE 6.5" MB quarts I bought her. I need a set of fronts that will get loud and take abuse from my wife. I was first concerned about getting her a nice pair of fronts but now I jsut want something that can get loud and can handle her abuse. Thanks (My wife thinks clipping is something she does to her dogs toenails)
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Posted By: Ravendarat
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 12:42 AM
What kinda power were you throwing at those speakers, you may wanna suggest putting an amp on the speakers and then setting the amp so it doesnt matter how loud she turns it, even if she pins the dial she wont blow em. Its amazing how much phsyco-acoustics will take over and if she thinks she has it really loud because the dial says its almost at the top then she will precieve it as loud. Thats just a thought.
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Posted By: quick4321
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 1:32 AM
not a bad idea. I only had 75x2 running to them, older MTX amp i had laying around. I bet she turned the gains up and the distorion of the MTX amp blew them. I should have never let her see me adjust the gains, if she had no clue they existed she'd have never blown them..
Posted By: boxmaker85
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 9:36 AM
LOL. Yeah that'll take a speaker out cold. JBL makes a 125 watt rms 6.5". Component set I think. Looks rather mean and can handle the power rather easily. Yeah glue that gain control down so she can't adjust it anymore. 
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 9:55 AM
I don't think anything could have faced that. Quart makes some of the toughest components out there.
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Posted By: auex
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 10:01 AM
There is no such thing as an indestructable speaker. However there is an easy fix for the situation, Take her keys away.
Amping will help but if she still turns the radio up the speakers will still blow, the signal will clip and distort and will just be amplified.
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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 10:13 AM
Also - tell her not to touch the bass boost, loudness, eq or anything else. All these things can lead to severe clipping as well.
One thing that might help somewhat - do you have a high pass crossover on those components? A 100hz high pass crossover will greatly improve the power handling of a 6.5" component set.
But even then - in the words of the author at bcae.com - can't find the direct quote but it went something like this - over or under powering rarely blow speakers - idiotic behavior blows speakers.
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Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 10:13 AM
make her pay for the speakers!, then she might care a lil more.
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Posted By: forbidden
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 1:43 PM
Make her understand how the system works first. Sort of like learning how to drive or does she use the hood ornament as a crosshair?
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Posted By: DYohn
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 1:59 PM
Do what I did to my daughter's system: locktite the gains in place (on an old amp, that is!) ------------- Support the12volt.com
Posted By: bumpingjeep
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 5:20 PM
I agree with alpine guy...make her pay for new ones...might be mad at you for a little while but she will respect what you tell her about her system from now on
Posted By: bumpingjeep
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 5:30 PM
i forgot to say that if you do this...good luck...it didn't work for me with my fiance...i just want to see someone else out there get away with it so that i may live vicariously through their manhood
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 5:39 PM
Seriously, I'd make her buy new ones. It will make her realize 1) gain isn't a volume control and 2) careless behavior breaks equipment.
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Posted By: jeffchilcott
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 6:19 PM
Make sure she understands the gain contro is not a fun toy..it is not a loudness switch haha then get some new one's and if she breaks them...she can blare the rears till they die
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Posted By: Jeffpaulus
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 6:32 PM
I am surprised that no one has suggested this yet: 6 inch speakers usually blow because of too much bass. You can solve this problem by either setting a highpass filter on the amp or deck, set it above 120 hz. Even better, add a sub to the system, then crossover your fronts at 250hz. She will have to make ear drums bleed before a pair of MB Quarts will blow crossed over above 250hz. I work at a car audio shop and this is what we do for customers who keep blowing nice speakers. ------------- Deck - Eclipse CD8443 - $475
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Posted By: flynntech
Date Posted: November 11, 2004 at 9:52 PM
LOCKTIGHT!!! that's pretty funny I'm going to start making 'block-off plates' for popular brand amps, installers can use these for problem customers! The "warranty void if removed" stickers would work wonders over the holes too. Stick a few of these over the gains and crossover
Posted By: harvey1959
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 4:49 AM
You guys are too funny. My wife likes the sound in her van and I don't have to worry about an amp because she don't like it loud.
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Posted By: xTimx
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 7:58 AM
Dont feel bad...i have blown many mb quart speakers but thank God they were under warranty though.
just tell her everytime you touch the stereo. no love making for a week. i used to say that to my ex. i was trying to get her to stop smoking and for every cig. that she had, no love makign for a week. that did the trick pretty fast!
oh and ground her too!
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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 4:06 PM
Wait until your my age, xTimx.....my wife would be thrilled if it were once a week!  And this is a situation where my yet-to-be-designed-and-patented invention would work really well........a control attached to the deck that you can set to limit volume. And oh yeah....did you say she's your ex? Hmmmmmm, wonder why? lol ------------- Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 4:15 PM
rofl - Yeah, I can't say I've heard of any situation where the male withholding sex works for any extended period of time.
In fact, that's probably the worst idea I've ever heard. I can just picture that conversation at my house.
Me: "If you change the dial I'll withhold sex."
Her: "Ok"
Me: "damnit."
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Posted By: s7726
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 5:15 PM
first of all kfr01, I feel bad for you. Second, If she's his wife even if she pays for the new speakers, he will prolly pay for them. Unless things are changing and people aren't goiong with joint accounts anymore, not surprising with the "standard" pre-nup. Third, consider a new wife Fourth and last resort, locktite the gains. If she figured out how to break it by upping the gains she's gunna figure out how to break it no matter how you hook it up with crossovers and such, are you sure she just doesn't hate you? The general public are either just smart enough or just dumb enough to figure out how things will break and there is no way to fix that. ------------- Gavin
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Posted By: kfr01
Date Posted: November 12, 2004 at 5:31 PM
I was trying to be funny, don't feel bad for me, our sex life is rather good. ;-)
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