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anyone had any experience (good/bad) with volfenhag, alphasonik, kole audio, pyle, pyramid? Just want to see the public opinions...

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

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Lol i bought this pyramid amp for $40 it was like 600 watts rms or sumthin i wanted to see how long it would last..i wired it to 8 ohms, turned everything all the way up, didnt last 15 minuted before there was smoke and tha smell of a fried amp...didnt even blow the fuse lol.

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Rockford 501bd (500 watt rms)
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Fantastic! anymore?

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

My friend had a Pyramid 1000W amp that couldn't blow a couple of 200W peak Rockford Fosgate speakers, heh. I had a couple of Pyramid 12" subs a while ago that put out less bass than my 6x9"s do now (I blew those subs rather quickly)

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2009 Pontiac G8 in planning stage
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This is great to hear! Anyone done the wall socket test?

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

Normally in any industry you get what you pay for. Car audio is no different so if you buy cheap equipment, I wouldn't expect a whole lot. Although admittingly I have heard some low end stuff that really didn't sound all that bad for the price.

"I'd send you a paypal for a dollar if you could send me a picture of a Pyramid/Pyle subwoofer plugged into an electrical socket... I just love watching crap explode."

By the way I will paypal you two dollars if you send me a video of ANY "normal" subwoofer plugged into an electrical outlet that doesn't fry..

Mike

I don't think Alphasonik should be on that group. I don't even think it's fair for the others brands that you named to be there with Pyramid. I mean Pyramid is so bad that they have no equal. You are talking about a company that makes an amp and intead of using transistors they use small two channel amps ( like the ones inside head units) and call it a 500 watts amp. Or make a 125x2 rms amp and call it a 1000 watts amp(you are lucky if you get 50rms with 20% thd).

The subs on the other hand are great to sell at flea markets (buy a 10inch for $8 and sell it for $40-$50).

Yeah pyramid is the only one one that list that I have had any direct experience with. A friend told me had ordered two 12" subs and a 1000 watt amp. I was asking him the specs and he said that the RMS wasn't listed. I was like man if it doesn't give RMS you most likely got screwed. Well about a week later I got a phone call and I was right he got screwed. He paid something around 400 dollars for utter pieces of crap. the amp fed the subs so much distortion that the gain was down to like zero and there was constant clipping. Stick with reputable brands, Myself I only like to deal with name brands because if an unexperienced customer comes in and trys to buy that low end crap thinking that it will "thump" and argues to have it installed, when and if I do install it I have to put up with their disapointment. Thats just my thought on the topic.

Jason

That is so fantastic. What is your opinion on alphasonik then bdl666? And by the way, the wall socket hasn't blown a 18'' MMATS juggernaut that i saw a guy try it out with. It isn't your regular normal subwoofer though lol. God i love crappy audio to screw around with!

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

I think you can call Alphasonik low high end. I whould compare their quality with that of Rockford and JBL( this is my personal opinion based on experience with them)

Ok ... lol ... Well someboy dig up a picture of the wall socket test PLEASE. I am dying for a good laugh that will make me $hit myself.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

If you guys do the wall socket test, keep in mind that it will most likely blow the circuit breaker unless the speaker is 8 ohms or you have like a 35A or more breaker to the socket you use.

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2009 Pontiac G8 in planning stage
HU: ?
Speakers: ?
Amps: ?

Yeah I think alphasonik falls on the list, I saw a sub/amp combo at pep boys next to the sony head units.

Jason

Volfenhag....HAHAHA....OK...if you have never heard these subs...heres what you do..take a decent sub say an MTX 4000 or so and Super glue a tin Pie Pan to it then play it...The sound they produce is so horrid....I have tried to make these subs sound good...Cant be done.....

Oh yeah and the wall test thing..funny as hell.....We did a Kove Armageddon ZM-15D 15" Sub.....In a J Port box that was built to spec for the sub....Sounded great...Loud as hell for about 12 seconds...Then all the factory smoke came out and the show was over...

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

My next door neighbour in a desperate bid to out-loud me (though my system is based on SQ not volume, it still gets pretty loud) decided to buy 5 times the wattage at 1/5th of the price. While driving down the road he was showing it off, my ears were been raped by high frequency distortion. His Pyle amp and Pyle speakers all burst into flames at the same time and smoke poured out of them. I didn't know what to say then, and I still don't now.

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The older Alphasonik amps were good. I still have one that is over 10 years old, and it still plays good. Don't know about the newer ones. Volfenhag, on the other hand, SORRY. Seen plenty of them, SORRY. I did have a friend that had 4 12" Pyramid Super Blue subs and an old school Zeus amp that was pretty amazing bass.

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bdl666 wrote:

I think you can call Alphasonik low high end. I whould compare their quality with that of Rockford and JBL( this is my personal opinion based on experience with them)

Ive used some older alphasonic as well as deltasonic and the were pretty decent,no experience with newer stuff though.

Once i bridged a 600 wat ppi amp to a legacy sub put the loudness on put the vol to full adn hit play,lol that sub only thumped once,followed by a loud pop! the woofer was stuck in the out posistion like it was glued there..,.

Not a problem with a specific brand but an 'experience' with low end audio nonetheless.. Though perhaps this belongs in a 'bad installs' thread

A friend who isn't into quality but enjoys his music wanted a VERY basic system for his car. It had all the wires from the head unit going to the right places but there were no speakers so he picked up a load of Pioneer stuff for under $80.

I wanted to check his connections so I turned the volume down to the lowest it would go and put the wires to each speaker and they moved slightly (I didn't have a voltmeter so I cheated)

I didn't have time to do the install that day and he is totally technically inept so I found it curious that he said he had done it himself when I phoned back a week later.

Weeks after that I got in his car and was horrified to find that he had used my checking method to attach all his speakers. They were hanging out the door holes and the connections had been made with tape. The back speakers were balanced on the back shelf. posted_image

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Plugging a woofer into a standard house outlet will draw about 30 amps (assuming a 4-ohm woofer) and play the 60Hz tone (normal house frequency in the US) with 3600 watts behind it. Sure, it will toast a speaker not designed for that kind of power pretty quickly, but a high-power woofer designed for it will simply shrug. It's really not a big deal.

What it does illustrate, however, is the dangerous voltages and currents that can be produced in very high-power audio systems. Not many of us would willingly grab hold of bare wires plugged into a wall outlet, but I have seen fools think nothing of grabbing live speaker leads connected to 5KW amps. And many more fools leave the speaker terminals of high-powered systems un-insulated and wonder why they arc across three inches to ground A high power audio system can kill you just like main power can.

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How true. I have a friend who was playing with a power supply at school. We had it on the 120AC 3A Setting and he accidently touched both leads at the same time.

We had to pull the leads out of his hands because his muscles just latched to them. His hands were pretty burnt.

But so as to not hi-jack this thread I once had a Pyramid Crystal 600. Toasted it. Got a Pyramid Crystal 1000. That thing put out 50 watts RMS @ 4 ohms bridged. Guess what?? Toasted it too.

Oh well, they were pieces of crap.

Paul

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A friend of mine had a "1000" (hahahaha) pyramid amp. Barely moved his 250W memphis subs. He got a kenwood amp now, sold it to a kid who blew his pyle amp, its still running as far as I know. Im about the only one at my school that knows much about car audio (not braggin, its the truth). So I see a lot of kids with pyramid, sony, and whatever crap they are currently selling at pep boys. I try to direct these people in the direction of good equipment, but they dont want to listen. It gets worse when I go to the local flea market. There is this guy who sells nothing but crap, his best products are audiobahn....if that tells you anything. Its sad to see people buying entire systems from this guy. One dude had three square pyramid subs running off a legacy amp or something. You could hear the distortion across the whole parking lot, it sounded absolutly terribile. I learned my lesson on buying cheap equipment when my power acoustik amp (not the most powerful amp around) blew out a Boss sub. I think I paid $30 for the subs w/ a box and it blew in about 10 minutes. Someone had "custom ported" (cut a round hole in the top), I ended up selling the box for $20 and the sub still sits at my house, reminding me not to buy crap.

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For all you sadists out there I found a very small video of a sub popping after being plugged into the mains.

It's at www.realmofexcursion.com under the orion subs section.

This website is for serious SPL heads..

ENJOY!

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and another under JL audio.

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actually there are loads just keep looking.. sorry for mulitpost.

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www.realmofexcursion.com

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what!?!?! you want some??

god did you see the one of the JBL? It took forever to blow that thing! lol!

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

You owe me as many dollars as there are frames in the videos uthinkuknoaudio... posted_image

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Ah! But look! There is only a dollar for the pyramid and pyles plugged into the electrical socket! Neither of them are! Other company's are though, and boy are they funny. Read the fine print my friend! lol

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

Damn fine print, gets me every time. It'd probably be worth me buying a load of pyle equiptment and blowing it up myself. Fun and I get paid for it! Probably doing the world a justice too!

Good thread uthink' its been a laugh finding those vids!

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i nearly $hit myself when i saw that JBL not die after like 30 minutes of torture. That pyle lasted for like 3 minutes surprisingly and the sony blew up in 3 seconds LOL. That was great ... But the offer ends by Wednesday, so get some equipment together (Today is monday in Florida). Good luck! god i'm still laughing. Listen to the guy say "DIE" during try two on that JBL ... i nearly pi$$ed myself.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

I just got back from the store. I plugged the pyle amp in and here is the result
You owe me a buck.

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lol, besides the picture being a fake, you still can't read. PYLE SUBWOOFER jackass, not a pyle amp. lol

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.

A fake? How can you tell. Damn I wasted $40. Told you I was no good with small print. Right I'm outta here before this thread goes to 4 pages or something. posted_image

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wow, and i thought jessica simpson was dumb lol. That $40 could have been used to buy a quality audio product, like walmart ghetto subwoofers! Me and my friends ran 4 of those in a parallel down to 1 ohm and ran a US Amp 1000 X into those and the cones flew off. Lol, that was a great day.

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"I don't play games. I play Nakamichi and that for real yo" - Probably some japanese kid said this in the early 80's trying to sell stereo out of his trunk lol.