Phoenix Gold
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Forum Name: Car Audio
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Printed Date: May 16, 2025 at 12:22 AM
Topic: Phoenix Gold
Posted By: 2001EclipseGT
Subject: Phoenix Gold
Date Posted: November 16, 2004 at 9:02 PM
Is this a good brand? would a Phoenix Gold Octane-R 5.0:4 amp push a pair of Ifinity 6000cs components well?
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Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: November 16, 2004 at 9:09 PM
Yes, a good brand. Even the Octane line, which is the mass market line of the bunch, is rated properly. The RMS of the components should equal or be more than the per channel output of the amplifier at 4 ohms, so just read the specs.
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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: 2001EclipseGT
Date Posted: November 16, 2004 at 9:11 PM
stevdart wrote:
Yes, a good brand. Even the Octane line, which is the mass market line of the bunch, is rated properly. The RMS of the components should equal or be more than the per channel output of the amplifier at 4 ohms, so just read the specs.
so 50w x 4 @ 4 ohms is enough to push a 90w rms component set?
Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: November 16, 2004 at 9:30 PM
That will just be 50 watts to each side, so a bit more power should be the way to go, and with a two-channel amp. A 50W X 4 four channel amp would run a set of 50 RMS components or coaxials, and a pair for the rear. Try to match RMS as closely as you can, and be sure to go no lower than 4 ohms impedance to the components. That is, don't try to run a pair of components with a four channel amp by bridging because the sound quality will suffer.
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Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: 2001EclipseGT
Date Posted: November 16, 2004 at 9:32 PM
stevdart wrote:
That will just be 50 watts to each side, so a bit more power should be the way to go, and with a two-channel amp. A 50W X 4 four channel amp would run a set of 50 RMS components or coaxials, and a pair for the rear. Try to match RMS as closely as you can, and be sure to go no lower than 4 ohms impedance to the components. That is, don't try to run a pair of components with a four channel amp by bridging because the sound quality will suffer.
you're a genius, i am in your debt. one last thing, what do you think about Visonik subs?
Posted By: 2001EclipseGT
Date Posted: November 16, 2004 at 9:33 PM
stevdart wrote:
That will just be 50 watts to each side, so a bit more power should be the way to go, and with a two-channel amp. A 50W X 4 four channel amp would run a set of 50 RMS components or coaxials, and a pair for the rear. Try to match RMS as closely as you can, and be sure to go no lower than 4 ohms impedance to the components. That is, don't try to run a pair of components with a four channel amp by bridging because the sound quality will suffer.
can you have the amp give more RMS than the speaker is? Like can i have 100w RMS @ 4ohms from the amp going to a 90W RMS speaker? and one last thing, what do you think about Visonik subs?
Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: November 16, 2004 at 9:47 PM
Yes, absolutely fine for the first question, because that is very close. Stay away from that crap sub, it's not a real subwoofer, it's just a name that sounds like a real subwoofer. Read through a bunch of these threads here and soon you will have a good idea of good sub brands. And you must not have read my sig line........ ------------- Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: 2001EclipseGT
Date Posted: November 16, 2004 at 9:50 PM
haha actually i did read ur sig. but damn i've already got visonik subs, so i guess i'm gonna have to wait until i get some more $$$ to buy some different ones.
Posted By: dragonrage
Date Posted: November 17, 2004 at 3:21 AM
I'm going to have to swim upstream here and say that PG sucks. They seem to blow up pretty often.
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Posted By: Rxzruby
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 2:42 AM
phoenix gold subs suck? how are their amps? it has been 10 years since i installed a system and back then they were the king, are they still? Rxzruby
Posted By: dedlyjedly
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 3:25 PM
phoenix gold's core focus has always been amplification. Some of the circuit topology they use results in the most musically robust amps in the world. as a pg dealer, some of their sub models have had some shortcomings. the titanium model had a problem with tinsel leads and the initial run of xenon subs had adhesive failures on cosmetic pieces such as dust caps. unfortunately, as have most manufacturers, pg has run into some production problems, but what really counts has been phoenix gold's steadfast support of all its products. the octane amps are good, but if you want a superb sound quality power amp check out the new xenon series. ------------- MECP certified, 5yrs experience, you probably otta listen bitch!!
Posted By: Francious70
Date Posted: November 22, 2004 at 4:14 PM
PG sucks?? That's quite a loaded statement.
I on the other hand think that PG makes some of the best amps on the market.
Now it is true that the new Xenon amps do have some problems, and I myself have toasted two of them, but that dosen't mean that all of their amps suck. Remember, the Xenons are made in China, and the rest are USA made.
Personally, the TI amps are some of the best money can buy. And let's not forget the Franken-amp and the MPH10K.
Paul
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